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Subject:    Re: Review Request 115297: Keep KWin responsive while loading all effects
From:       Thomas_Lübking <thomas.luebking () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-01-26 15:19:36
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> On Jan. 24, 2014, 3:51 p.m., Thomas Lübking wrote:
> > kwin/effects.cpp, line 198
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115297/diff/1/?file=240441#file240441line198>
> > 
> > if (!m_dequeueIsScheduled) {
> > m_dequeueIsScheduled = true;
> > QMetaObject::invokeMethod(this, "dequeue", Qt::QueuedConnection);
> > }
> > 
> > does not abuse QTimer and allows for passing parameters to dequeue (if ever \
> > required) 
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> I knew you would suggest that :-) Is the behavior really exactly the same? Given \
> the documentation I'm unsure about it. For invokeMethod we have: "If type is \
> Qt::QueuedConnection, a QEvent will be sent and the member is invoked as soon as \
> the application enters the main event loop." 
> For QTimer with 0 msec we have:
> "A QTimer with a timeout interval of 0 will time out as soon as all the events in \
> the window system's event queue have been processed." 
> Given the documentation I understand that invokeMethod will be first in the event \
> loop, but the QTimer will be last in the event loop. I might be wrong about that \
> and they both behave the same, but in case it's really that difference I want to \
> have the QTimer behavior here as I want to get all the window system events to be \
> processed first. 
> I tried to verify it by looking at the Qt code and I think it's really the case. \
> See QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents \
> (qtbase/src/corelib/kernel/qeventdispatcher_unix.cpp): it first sends the posted \
> events and as very last step activates the timers.

Timer activation should be last action in eventcycle "n" while sending posted event \
the first action in cycle "n+1" (timers are sent and events are posted between the \
two) Since you're adding the timer from a timer event, the present approach would \
likely not even work if there wasn't the maxCount in ::activateTimers() =)

Functionally it's equal (i hope) in this context, BUT (haha!) posting the event will \
*ensure* that a (randomly!) timer triggered action in the core/compositor \
(resize/repaint) will be processed before the next plugin load (which then occurs \
while the compositor sleeps for the next frame) while the mangled qtimer schedule \
*can* prefer the plugin loading (depending on the timer queue), delaying the imminent \
paint =) (Notice that this is academical - if the plugin loading takes some ms, it \
will easily cross a paint timeout)

As a nice addition, one could also have a strictly oo "AutoDeQueue" class (while \
that's likely overengineered unless there'd be interest in a library - or we can use \
it for other parrallel loading until KConfig and friends are guaranteed to be thread \
safe)

Disclaimer: not tested, no guarantee.


- Thomas


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On Jan. 24, 2014, 2:52 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
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> (Updated Jan. 24, 2014, 2:52 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin.
> 
> 
> Repository: kde-workspace
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> Keep KWin responsive while loading all effects
> 
> Loading all effects during startup can take some time[1] and during
> that time the screen is frozen as the loading blocks the compositor.
> 
> This change doesn't load effects directly but puts them into a queue.
> The loading is controlled by a single-shooting QTimer with 0 msec
> interval. Thus we get a firing compositing timer in between and can
> ensure that a frame is rendered when needed and also react to X events
> during the loading.
> 
> [1] On my high-end system the set of effects I use take about 200 msec
> to load.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> kwin/effects.cpp 7da54f4992fcc23989a99e60ec57bcb97c3cc0c3 
> kwin/effects.h adcf970a43745cbd44f2510bc0da23aa0450637b 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115297/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Added some debug statements to see whether we get frames rendered between loading. \
> Yes, works. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Martin Gräßlin
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On January 24th, 2014, 3:51 p.m. UTC, <b>Thomas \
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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
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(!m_dequeueIsScheduled) {  m_dequeueIsScheduled = true;
   QMetaObject::invokeMethod(this, &quot;dequeue&quot;, Qt::QueuedConnection);
}

does not abuse QTimer and allows for passing parameters to dequeue (if ever required)
   </pre>
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 <p>On January 26th, 2014, 10:20 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I knew you would suggest \
that :-) Is the behavior really exactly the same? Given the documentation I&#39;m \
unsure about it. For invokeMethod we have: &quot;If type is Qt::QueuedConnection, a \
QEvent will be sent and the member is invoked as soon as the application enters the \
main event loop.&quot;

For QTimer with 0 msec we have:
&quot;A QTimer with a timeout interval of 0 will time out as soon as all the events \
in the window system&#39;s event queue have been processed.&quot;

Given the documentation I understand that invokeMethod will be first in the event \
loop, but the QTimer will be last in the event loop. I might be wrong about that and \
they both behave the same, but in case it&#39;s really that difference I want to have \
the QTimer behavior here as I want to get all the window system events to be \
processed first.

I tried to verify it by looking at the Qt code and I think it&#39;s really the case. \
See QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents \
(qtbase/src/corelib/kernel/qeventdispatcher_unix.cpp): it first sends the posted \
events and as very last step activates the timers.</pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>
<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Timer \
activation should be last action in eventcycle &quot;n&quot; while sending posted \
event the first action in cycle &quot;n+1&quot; (timers are sent and events are \
posted between the two) Since you&#39;re adding the timer from a timer event, the \
present approach would likely not even work if there wasn&#39;t the maxCount in \
::activateTimers() =)

Functionally it&#39;s equal (i hope) in this context, BUT (haha!) posting the event \
will *ensure* that a (randomly!) timer triggered action in the core/compositor \
(resize/repaint) will be processed before the next plugin load (which then occurs \
while the compositor sleeps for the next frame) while the mangled qtimer schedule \
*can* prefer the plugin loading (depending on the timer queue), delaying the imminent \
paint =) (Notice that this is academical - if the plugin loading takes some ms, it \
will easily cross a paint timeout)

As a nice addition, one could also have a strictly oo &quot;AutoDeQueue&quot; class \
(while that&#39;s likely overengineered unless there&#39;d be interest in a library - \
or we can use it for other parrallel loading until KConfig and friends are guaranteed \
to be thread safe)

Disclaimer: not tested, no guarantee.</pre>
<br />




<p>- Thomas</p>


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<p>On January 24th, 2014, 2:52 p.m. UTC, Martin Gräßlin wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for kwin.</div>
<div>By Martin Gräßlin.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Jan. 24, 2014, 2:52 p.m.</i></p>









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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kde-workspace
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Keep KWin responsive while loading all effects

Loading all effects during startup can take some time[1] and during
that time the screen is frozen as the loading blocks the compositor.

This change doesn&#39;t load effects directly but puts them into a queue.
The loading is controlled by a single-shooting QTimer with 0 msec
interval. Thus we get a firing compositing timer in between and can
ensure that a frame is rendered when needed and also react to X events
during the loading.

[1] On my high-end system the set of effects I use take about 200 msec
    to load.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Added some debug statements to see whether we get frames rendered \
between loading. Yes, works.</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>kwin/effects.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(7da54f4992fcc23989a99e60ec57bcb97c3cc0c3)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/effects.h <span style="color: \
grey">(adcf970a43745cbd44f2510bc0da23aa0450637b)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115297/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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