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Subject:    Re: Review Request: Make the Screenshots effect capable to take pictures of a random window provided
From:       Thomas_Lübking <thomas.luebking () web ! de>
Date:       2012-03-26 0:16:55
Message-ID: 20120326001655.18524.64045 () vidsolbach ! de
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> On March 24, 2012, 1:26 p.m., Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote:
> > May I ask for the rational behind making it possible to screenshot any =
window? :-)
> > =

> > That is just to remind you that the d-bus interface is only available i=
f compositing is enabled (and the effect is activated) and we don't provide=
 any API guarantee on the effects.
> =

> Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
>     Well, the idea is that I have a program that runs an application and =
takes a screenshot of it.
> =

> Thomas L=C3=BCbking wrote:
>     In how far is that different from window()->render(&img)?
>     Is this somehow about shooting flash?
> =

> Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
>     I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. What's window()?
> =

> Thomas L=C3=BCbking wrote:
>     QWidget::window() - ie. why don't you "shoot" the window in-process (=
gtk+ certainly has similar calls)
> =

> Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote:
>     I'd guess because it does not provide decorations
> =

> Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
>     Well, my application takes screenshots, but not screenshots of itself=
 but a random host application, such as ksnapshot.
>     If this is really a blocker, maybe you can wait until it's ready.
>     =

>     This "taking screenshots" could be done with QPixmap::grabWindow but =
it doesn't provide decorations so the result looks close to useless.
>     =

>     I think it kind of makes sense to have such an API. The code is simpl=
e and straightforward and the use-case is clear. I think it's even more cle=
ar than the "take a picture of the currently active window", but I'm not go=
ing to discuss this.

KSnapshot does actually involve the screenshot effect if available.
To take a screenshot by id, you'll either need an id programmatically or as=
k the user to provide one.
Latter is what ksnapshot does and the use case for the other one is still n=
ot clear (at least not to me) and at least i mostly wonder whether you actu=
ally want this or in fact want sth. entirely different but don't yet know a=
bout ;-)

-> You could just point your interested client to such interface.

This is unrelated, but QPixmap::grabWindow btw. can shoot decorations, but =
copies from the screenbuffer (ie. it cannot shoot obscured regions)
Also there's no "take a picture of the currently active window" in the scre=
enshot dbus interface (unless you of course use "focus strictly under mouse=
") what makes me more wonder if the current interface isn't what you actual=
ly want *shrug*


- Thomas


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On March 24, 2012, 12:51 a.m., Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
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> (Updated March 24, 2012, 12:51 a.m.)
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> =

> Review request for kwin.
> =

> =

> Description
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> Make it possible to create a screenshot given a winid
> =

> =

> Diffs
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>   kwin/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h f05d0ec =

>   kwin/effects/screenshot/screenshot.cpp f75a179 =

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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104388/diff/
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> Testing
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> screenshot attached
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> Screenshots
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> screenshot taken with this
>   http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104388/s/489/
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> Thanks,
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> Aleix Pol Gonzalez
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On March 24th, 2012, 1:26 p.m., <b>Martin \
Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">May I ask for the rational behind making it possible to screenshot any \
window? :-)

That is just to remind you that the d-bus interface is only available if compositing \
is enabled (and the effect is activated) and we don&#39;t provide any API guarantee \
on the effects.</pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On March 24th, 2012, 2:58 p.m., <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Well, the idea is that I \
have a program that runs an application and takes a screenshot of it.</pre>  \
</blockquote>





 <p>On March 24th, 2012, 5:12 p.m., <b>Thomas Lübking</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">In how far is that \
different from window()-&gt;render(&amp;img)? Is this somehow about shooting \
flash?</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On March 24th, 2012, 8:03 p.m., <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I&#39;m sorry, but I \
don&#39;t understand the question. What&#39;s window()?</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On March 24th, 2012, 8:59 p.m., <b>Thomas Lübking</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">QWidget::window() - ie. \
why don&#39;t you &quot;shoot&quot; the window in-process (gtk+ certainly has similar \
calls)</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On March 24th, 2012, 9 p.m., <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I&#39;d guess because it \
does not provide decorations</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On March 25th, 2012, 11:56 p.m., <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Well, my application \
takes screenshots, but not screenshots of itself but a random host application, such \
as ksnapshot. If this is really a blocker, maybe you can wait until it&#39;s ready.

This &quot;taking screenshots&quot; could be done with QPixmap::grabWindow but it \
doesn&#39;t provide decorations so the result looks close to useless.

I think it kind of makes sense to have such an API. The code is simple and \
straightforward and the use-case is clear. I think it&#39;s even more clear than the \
&quot;take a picture of the currently active window&quot;, but I&#39;m not going to \
discuss this.</pre>  </blockquote>








</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">KSnapshot does actually \
involve the screenshot effect if available. To take a screenshot by id, you&#39;ll \
either need an id programmatically or ask the user to provide one. Latter is what \
ksnapshot does and the use case for the other one is still not clear (at least not to \
me) and at least i mostly wonder whether you actually want this or in fact want sth. \
entirely different but don&#39;t yet know about ;-)

-&gt; You could just point your interested client to such interface.

This is unrelated, but QPixmap::grabWindow btw. can shoot decorations, but copies \
from the screenbuffer (ie. it cannot shoot obscured regions) Also there&#39;s no \
&quot;take a picture of the currently active window&quot; in the screenshot dbus \
interface (unless you of course use &quot;focus strictly under mouse&quot;) what \
makes me more wonder if the current interface isn&#39;t what you actually want \
*shrug*</pre> <br />








<p>- Thomas</p>


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<p>On March 24th, 2012, 12:51 a.m., Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:</p>






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<div>Review request for kwin.</div>
<div>By Aleix Pol Gonzalez.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated March 24, 2012, 12:51 a.m.</i></p>






<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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break-word;">Make it possible to create a screenshot given a winid</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>kwin/effects/screenshot/screenshot.h <span style="color: \
grey">(f05d0ec)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/effects/screenshot/screenshot.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(f75a179)</span></li>

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<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104388/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>



<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Screenshots </h1>

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