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Subject:    Re: Review Request: Refactor checks for inclusion of TabBoxClients in the client list
From:       "Hans Chen" <hans.chen () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-03-01 11:59:17
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> On March 1, 2012, 11:19 a.m., Hans Chen wrote:
> > (Disclaimer: I'm just a user, hope it's OK I comment on the UI. :)
> > 
> > Personally I think the screenshot looks a bit daunting because these comboboxes \
> > seem to represent a lot of options. How many items are there in each dropdown \
> > list? If there are only two, I would personally prefer checkboxes like in the \
> > taskmanager widget settings, e.g. 
> > Only show windows from the current application [ ]
> > Only show windows from the current screen [ ]
> > Only show windows from the current desktop [ ]
> > Only show windows from the current activity [ ]
> > Only show windows that are minimized [ ]
> > Include desktop in the list [ ]
> > 
> > In my opinion it makes it clearer what each option does, you only have two \
> > choices for each option (yes/no) and it makes it consistent with Plasma (note \
> > that the taskmanager uses "tasks" instead of "windows"). 
> > I noticed that you wrote "you [Martin] requested all checks to be combo boxes" - \
> > was this what you referred to?
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> the user interface has to be changed, that is quite clear. But it is unrelated to \
> the refactoring changes in fact. 
> What I want to see is making the layout selection the most prominent part of the UI \
> and "hide" the settings. For the settings I'm thinking of an approach like the \
> mouse actions for Plasma Desktop. Using a button to "Add another restriction" or \
> something like that. Would make the view much less cluttered. 
> Stefano Avallone wrote:
> As Martin said, the UI has to be redesigned. To reply to Hans' question: the \
> Applications, Minimized and MultiScreen combo boxes have three options (please have \
> a look at the enum types in the new version of tabboxconfig.h) 
> To Martin: by the week end, I'll try to upload a new version of the diff addressing \
> your comment above and rebased against current master

Thank you both for your replies!

@Martin: I had a similar thought but would prefer one that requires as little "work" \
from the user as possible.

@Stefano: I see, that makes it more complicated.

Since the UI is unrelated to this patch I'll add my comments regarding it somewhere \
else, possibly the KWin mailing list.


- Hans


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On Feb. 21, 2012, 3:42 p.m., Stefano Avallone wrote:
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> (Updated Feb. 21, 2012, 3:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin and Martin Gräßlin.
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> This patch refactors the checks for inclusion of TabBox clients in the client list. \
> All the checks have been implemented as dropdowns. Quoting Martin, the checks are: 
> * Desktop: Windows From All Desktops, Windows From Current Desktop
> * Activities: Windows From All Activities, Windows From Current Activity
> * Applications: All Windows From All Applications, Only one Window per
> Application, Only all Windows of Current Application
> * Minimized: Ignore, Minimized windows only, Exclude Minimized Windows
> * Desktop: Don't Show Desktop, Show Desktop to minimize all windows
> * Multi Screen: Ignore, Only Windows from current screen, Exclude windows from
> current screen
> 
> Each of such checks has been implemented as a private method of TabBoxHandlerImpl. \
> They are called by TabBoxHandlerImpl::clientToAddToList, while \
> ClientModel::createClientList only handles the switching mode \
> (FocusChain/StackingOrder) and whether a desktop client should be added to the list \
> to minimize all the clients. In TabBoxHandlerImpl::clientToAddToList, I left the \
> following line: 
> addClient = addClient && current->wantsTabFocus() && !current->skipSwitcher();
> 
> as I am not sure if it is needed or not.
> 
> The UI is a bit crowded now, but I would leave a UI refactor for a future commit.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> kwin/kcmkwin/kwintabbox/main.cpp 3f047d1 
> kwin/kcmkwin/kwintabbox/main.ui a316b28 
> kwin/tabbox/clientmodel.cpp 4ca7fef 
> kwin/tabbox/declarative.cpp dd4f242 
> kwin/tabbox/tabbox.h 6d4e2b2 
> kwin/tabbox/tabbox.cpp 3f26397 
> kwin/tabbox/tabboxconfig.h 32facde 
> kwin/tabbox/tabboxconfig.cpp 9feaa16 
> kwin/tabbox/tabboxhandler.h 27b475a 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104025/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Desktop, Minimized, Show desktop: work fine
> 
> Multi Screen: could not test, as I do not have a multi screen configuration
> 
> Activities: works fine. However, when using the present windows effect as task \
> switcher, the previews of the windows on other activities are not visible. They are \
> actually there, because moving the mouse to the area where they (presumably) are \
> makes the close button appear and allows to activate them. When using a layout \
> based switcher, thumbnails of windows on other activities are correctly shown. So, \
> I guess, it is something unrelated to the checks I made. 
> Applications: the new case I implemented is "Only all Windows of Current \
> Application" (others work fine). I tested it with KDevelop+About KDE+About \
> Kdevelop, and it works fine. It doesn't work with the three windows opened by Gimp, \
> in the sense that only one window (instead of all of them) is shown. Not sure if my \
> check is incorrect, here. 
> 
> Screenshots
> -----------
> 
> Modified UI
> http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104025/s/438/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stefano Avallone
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On March 1st, 2012, 11:19 a.m., <b>Hans Chen</b> \
wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; \
padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">(Disclaimer: I&#39;m just a user, hope it&#39;s OK I comment on the UI. \
:)

Personally I think the screenshot looks a bit daunting because these comboboxes seem \
to represent a lot of options. How many items are there in each dropdown list? If \
there are only two, I would personally prefer checkboxes like in the taskmanager \
widget settings, e.g.

Only show windows from the current application [ ]
Only show windows from the current screen [ ]
Only show windows from the current desktop [ ]
Only show windows from the current activity [ ]
Only show windows that are minimized [ ]
Include desktop in the list [ ]

In my opinion it makes it clearer what each option does, you only have two choices \
for each option (yes/no) and it makes it consistent with Plasma (note that the \
taskmanager uses &quot;tasks&quot; instead of &quot;windows&quot;).

I noticed that you wrote &quot;you [Martin] requested all checks to be combo \
boxes&quot; - was this what you referred to?</pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On March 1st, 2012, 11:25 a.m., <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">the user interface has \
to be changed, that is quite clear. But it is unrelated to the refactoring changes in \
fact.

What I want to see is making the layout selection the most prominent part of the UI \
and &quot;hide&quot; the settings. For the settings I&#39;m thinking of an approach \
like the mouse actions for Plasma Desktop. Using a button to &quot;Add another \
restriction&quot; or something like that. Would make the view much less \
cluttered.</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On March 1st, 2012, 11:43 a.m., <b>Stefano Avallone</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">As Martin said, the UI \
has to be redesigned. To reply to Hans&#39; question: the Applications, Minimized and \
MultiScreen combo boxes have three options (please have a look at the enum types in \
the new version of tabboxconfig.h)

To Martin: by the week end, I&#39;ll try to upload a new version of the diff \
addressing your comment above and rebased against current master</pre>  </blockquote>








</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Thank you both for your \
replies!

@Martin: I had a similar thought but would prefer one that requires as little \
&quot;work&quot; from the user as possible.

@Stefano: I see, that makes it more complicated.

Since the UI is unrelated to this patch I&#39;ll add my comments regarding it \
somewhere else, possibly the KWin mailing list.</pre> <br />








<p>- Hans</p>


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<div>Review request for kwin and Martin Gräßlin.</div>
<div>By Stefano Avallone.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Feb. 21, 2012, 3:42 p.m.</i></p>






<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">This patch refactors the checks for inclusion of TabBox clients in the \
client list. All the checks have been implemented as dropdowns. Quoting Martin, the \
checks are:

* Desktop: Windows From All Desktops, Windows From Current Desktop
* Activities: Windows From All Activities, Windows From Current Activity
* Applications: All Windows From All Applications, Only one Window per
Application, Only all Windows of Current Application
* Minimized: Ignore, Minimized windows only, Exclude Minimized Windows
* Desktop: Don&#39;t Show Desktop, Show Desktop to minimize all windows
* Multi Screen: Ignore, Only Windows from current screen, Exclude windows from
current screen

Each of such checks has been implemented as a private method of TabBoxHandlerImpl. \
They are called by TabBoxHandlerImpl::clientToAddToList, while \
ClientModel::createClientList only handles the switching mode \
(FocusChain/StackingOrder) and whether a desktop client should be added to the list \
to minimize all the clients. In TabBoxHandlerImpl::clientToAddToList, I left the \
following line:

addClient = addClient &amp;&amp; current-&gt;wantsTabFocus() &amp;&amp; \
!current-&gt;skipSwitcher();

as I am not sure if it is needed or not.

The UI is a bit crowded now, but I would leave a UI refactor for a future \
commit.</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Desktop, Minimized, Show desktop: work fine

Multi Screen: could not test, as I do not have a multi screen configuration

Activities: works fine. However, when using the present windows effect as task \
switcher, the previews of the windows on other activities are not visible. They are \
actually there, because moving the mouse to the area where they (presumably) are \
makes the close button appear and allows to activate them. When using a layout based \
switcher, thumbnails of windows on other activities are correctly shown. So, I guess, \
it is something unrelated to the checks I made.

Applications: the new case I implemented is &quot;Only all Windows of Current \
Application&quot; (others work fine). I tested it with KDevelop+About KDE+About \
Kdevelop, and it works fine. It doesn&#39;t work with the three windows opened by \
Gimp, in the sense that only one window (instead of all of them) is shown. Not sure \
if my check is incorrect, here.</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>kwin/kcmkwin/kwintabbox/main.cpp <span style="color: grey">(3f047d1)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/kcmkwin/kwintabbox/main.ui <span style="color: grey">(a316b28)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/clientmodel.cpp <span style="color: grey">(4ca7fef)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/declarative.cpp <span style="color: grey">(dd4f242)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/tabbox.h <span style="color: grey">(6d4e2b2)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/tabbox.cpp <span style="color: grey">(3f26397)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/tabboxconfig.h <span style="color: grey">(32facde)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/tabboxconfig.cpp <span style="color: grey">(9feaa16)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/tabbox/tabboxhandler.h <span style="color: grey">(27b475a)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104025/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>



<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Screenshots </h1>

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src="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/images/2012/02/21/ui_400x100.jpeg" \
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