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List:       kvm-interest
Subject:    Re: Data writing and reading to Network
From:       Scott Middleton <scottmiddleton () OPTUSNET ! COM ! AU>
Date:       2005-10-20 8:22:57
Message-ID: 435753E1.90605 () optusnet ! com ! au
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I was doing some searching before you asked this question David. I just
had to dig up the link

http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?t858&highlight=http+tcp

discusses the WAP mimicking that i mentioned.

SM

John Bridges wrote:

> The real issue (IIRC) is that handsets are (generally) set up in such a
> way that different applications (MMS/WAP Browser/Java) use different
> APN's.
> 
> The APN's a handset has access to are dependent on the calling plan,
> which can mean in many cases, that whilst a handset can WAP browse, Java
> apps may be unable to connect over the network. An example from the UK
> is O2 which prohibits (at least some) PAYG Java handsets from accessing
> the network (or they did when we looked a while ago).
> 
> This is also exacerbated by some of those handsets not being setup -
> even when on the correct calling plan - the T610 was a nasty beast like
> that.
> 
> JB
> 
> Scott Middleton wrote:
> 
> > Your code isnt working because the "web package" focuses on WAP. Its the
> > same in australia, the carrier
> > says they support web use, but thats only through WAP. Usually you need
> > to be on a plan before they allow
> > you to use GPRS data - which even then takes quite some time to setup on
> > the phone if you're unlucky.
> > 
> > Don't quote me on the T-Mobile web package as being WAP, but i do
> > believe thats the case.
> > 
> > David Ruderman wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm sure that it is possible, but is it the right thing to do?
> > > 
> > > Perhaps simply doing the HTTP Post and reading via high-level API as
> > > below is the problem?
> > > 
> > > -dave
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > *From:* A mailing list for KVM discussion
> > > [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] *On Behalf Of *Scott Middleton
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:38 AM
> > > *To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
> > > *Subject:* Re: Data writing and reading to Network
> > > 
> > > Would it be possible to pass your own content off as WAP content?
> > > 
> > > That is put WAP headers and/or mimetypes on the top of your content,
> > > so when you make the HttpConnection
> > > the carriers servers think you're just accessing a WAP site?
> > > 
> > > Just a thought!
> > > 
> > > Sebastien Flory wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello David,
> > > > 
> > > > As a multiplayer games company, we encountered this issue a lot on
> > > > many
> > > > carriers, unfortunatly, there is no way to bypass this limitation
> > > > when it's
> > > > in place.
> > > > Fortunatly, more and more carriers are moving to a simple 1 package
> > > > for all.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > 
> > > > Sebastien
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Date:    Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:47:34 -0400
> > > > > From:    David Ruderman <druderman@GIST.COM>
> > > > > Subject: Data writing and reading to Network
> > > > > 
> > > > > This code works on many phones and providers.
> > > > > I have encountered a few phones and providers for which code like
> > > > > this
> > > > > fails.
> > > > > 
> > > > > conn = (HttpConnection) Connector.open(servletName,
> > > > > Connector.READ_WRITE, true) ;
> > > > > conn.setRequestMethod (HttpConnection.POST);        
> > > > > out = conn.openDataOutputStream();
> > > > > out.writeUTF(s);
> > > > > out.flush() ;
> > > > > in = conn.openDataInputStream();
> > > > > in.readUTF() ;
> > > > > ....
> > > > > 
> > > > > In one example, the Motorola Razr on T-Mobile works, but only if I
> > > > > subscribe to a monthly unlimited internet package, instead of their
> > > > > unlimited web package.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think that this changes the routing of HTTP traffic, so it is not
> > > > > through the WAP gateway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What's the best strategy of writing and reading data to the
> > > > > Network on
> > > > > most phones, so no special service packages are required?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -dave
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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