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Subject: Re: [Kroupware] Re: Re:KMail als KParts-Container.
From: Don Sanders <sanders () trolltech ! com>
Date: 2002-09-16 5:58:18
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I agree with Cornelius that a Kaplan like approach is the proper
solution to creating an application that integrates KMail,
KOrganizer, KAddressBook and other groupware applications.
I don't think embedding KOrganizer in KMail is a good long term
solution.
In the kmail make_it_cool branch KMail is already a KPart as Kaplan
requires, (I made that change on Saturday). Furthermore a KMail
plugin has been added to kaplan in the kde-pim package. Cornelius has
trialled the KMail KPart using Kaplan, has found it to be a promising
solution and I'm working with feedback he has given me to improve the
KMail KPart. (Perhaps I'll even start using Kaplan is my primary mail
client!)
Here are links to some screenshots showing Kaplan integrating KMail,
KAddressBook and KOrganizer.
http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/images/kaplan1-big.png
http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/images/kaplan2-big.png
http://trolls.troll.no/sanders/images/kaplan3-big.png
I guess making KMail a KPart is something of a big deal so news
outlets feel free to quote this post and include the links I have
listed.
Don.
On Friday 13 September 2002 22:18, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> On Friday 13 September 2002 11:33, Steffen Hansen wrote:
> > OK, we have to make it look and work like Outlook somehow.
>
> I hope that's not the prime goal. Having a good solution for the
> problem is much more important, in my opinion. That doesn't mean
> that we can't learn anything from Outlook. But if it would be just
> about copying Outlook the question is: Why don't just use Outlook?
>
> > Embedding korganizer inside kmail seems to be a solution that can
> > be done within our timeframe. Do you think a "kaplan" solution
> > can be made to work within the same timeframe?
>
> Korganizer has to be turned into a Read/write part for both
> solutions.
>
> The Kaplan solution would also require to have at least a
> Read/Write part of the KMail main window. That's not difficult in
> principle, but requires some work. Don promised to do that until
> Monday.
>
> For embedding KOrganizer in KMail you would need some shell code in
> KMail. This already exists in Kaplan.
>
> One good thing about Kaplan would also be that you get the same
> integration for Kaddressbook as for KOrganizer and this already is
> implemented. Any Outlook-like applications provides that feature,
> so I don't think we can get along without it.
>
> > IIRC, danimo did not have too high thoughts himself about kaplan
> > :-)
>
> kaplan is in an early development stage, but it has a good base and
> it doesn't have to do that much. Most of it was written by Matthias
> Hoelzer-Kluepfel. I'm not aware of danimo having really serious
> doubts about kaplan. The main problem is that KMail isn't
> integrated yet, but that's more a KMail problem than a kaplan
> problem.
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