--===============8724101482369371523== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044402b0599a9d050f78c022 --f46d044402b0599a9d050f78c022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hey, On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > I'm adding Martin that is the one that originally started this thread. > > But my suggestion would be that you create bug/wish requests about these > things. > > Cheers, > Albert > > El Dimecres, 18 de febrer de 2015, a les 20:39:59, Scott Lerman va > escriure: > > I've used KDE Telepathy for the past couple weeks, and here's a few > things > > I've noticed that I miss from Kopete: > As was said in the main thread already, KDE Telepathy does not try to be swiss army knife and doitall, we also don't want to copy all features of Kopete (what would be the point of that :) We also prefer to keep the amount of options to be as minimal as possible. > > > Manual sorting of groups in the contact list > > Disable automatic resizing of text entry area > > Disable sound notifications when away (ideally only with an explicit away > > setting and not idle/auto-away) > These^ all fall into the category of what I wrote above. Maybe the last one could be done, if someones finds the time (manpower is scarce). > > No system tray icon when there's a new message from a contact with an > open > > chat window > Yes, well, there should be blinking taskbar entry, no reason to blink at two places really :) > > OTR Encryption (though I think this has been added recently, it just > isn't > > in the Kubuntu version, which is 0.8.1) > It's in 0.9 line. > > I've also found one bug - in the contact list toolbar, the Settings > button > > can't be accessed if the chat list window is too narrow > Yup, that's known and there's no easy solution it seems[1]. [1] - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316591 > > I can list some (important for me) features, that are missing in ktp > > > (correct me, if I missed something): > > > > > > - edit contact names and images, and group contacts (for example same > > > people with different IM-accounts with different protocols - but still > > > choose preferred protocol, or choose specific one to chat with a person > > > in context-menu/via protocol-status-icon) > Editing contact names is impossible because of the nature of Telepathy. But we've started on a solution that would allow that at least locally. As for choosing different protocols when chatting, it's possible and a solution with selected preferred protocol is also desired. > > > - edit the contact-list view (in kopete you can comfortable and exactly > > > define, which contact attributes to show where in the contact list), in > > > ktp there are 3 views, but they can't be configured. > Sorry, you're gonna have to stick with Kopete for that. > > > - fetching/caching contact images from server does not work reliable in > > > ktp, they sometimes only are displayed on status change > That's again limitation of Telepathy. You simply won't get an avatar for a contact that's not online (I don't know how much that is a protocol limitation) so we do have our own cache in place. But obviously only contacts that Telepathy gives us avatars for can be cached. For the record, in the years of KDE Telepathy out there, there wasn't a single report about this. > > > - connect/set-status only some protocols (in ktp you can only go online > > > or offline with all accounts) > Yup, that's also on the todo. > > > - define what to display in tooltips for contacts in contactlist > Nope, swissarmyknife-sorry. > > > - ktp contact-list has no status icon (showing status, missed messages) > There's a complementary Plasma applet which acts as a status icon. In Plasma5, this applet also acts as a quick contact list integrated as an applet. > > > - show history (chat protocol) from contact-list > That's of course possible, provided you have the correct packages installed. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer --f46d044402b0599a9d050f78c022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,=

On Th= u, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> w= rote:
I'm adding Martin that is the one that origin= ally started this thread.

But my suggestion would be that you create bug/wish requests about these things.

Cheers,
=C2=A0 Albert

El Dimecres, 18 de febrer de 2015, a les 20:39:59, Scott Lerman va escriure= :
> I've used KDE Telepathy for the past couple weeks, and here's = a few things
> I've noticed that I miss from Kopete:

As was said in the main thread already, KDE Telepathy does not try = to be
swiss army knife and doitall, we also don't want to cop= y all features of Kopete
(what would be the point of that :) We a= lso prefer to keep the amount of options
to be as minimal as poss= ible.

>
> Manual sorting of groups in the contact list
> Disable automatic resizing of text entry area
> Disable sound notifications when away (ideally only with an explicit a= way
> setting and not idle/auto-away)

Th= ese^ all fall into the category of what I wrote above. Maybe the last one
could be done, if someones finds the time (manpower is scarce).
=C2=A0
> No system tray icon when there's a new message from a contact with= an open
> chat window

Yes, well, there shoul= d be blinking taskbar entry, no reason to blink at two places
rea= lly :)
=C2=A0
> OTR Encryption (though I think this has been added recently, it just i= sn't
> in the Kubuntu version, which is 0.8.1)

It's in 0.9 line.
=C2=A0
> I've also found one bug - in the contact list toolbar, the Setting= s button
> can't be accessed if the chat list window is too narrow

Yup, that's known and there's no easy sol= ution it seems[1].

=
=C2=A0

> > I can list some (important for me) features, that are missing in = ktp
> > (correct me, if I missed something):
> >
> > - edit contact names and images, and group contacts (for example = same
> > people with different IM-accounts with different protocols - but = still
> > choose preferred protocol, or choose specific one to chat with a = person
> > in context-menu/via protocol-status-icon)
Editing contact names is impossible because of the nature of T= elepathy.
But we've started on a solution that would allow th= at at least locally.
As for choosing different protocols when cha= tting, it's possible and=C2=A0
a solution with selected prefe= rred protocol is also desired.
=C2=A0
> > - edit the contact-list view (in kopete you can comfortable and e= xactly
> > define, which contact attributes to show where in the contact lis= t), in
> > ktp there are 3 views, but they can't be configured.

Sorry, you're gonna have to stick with Kope= te for that.
=C2=A0
> > - fetching/caching contact images from server does not work relia= ble in
> > ktp, they sometimes only are displayed on status change

That's again limitation of Telepathy. You si= mply won't get an avatar
for a contact that's not online = (I don't know how much that is a protocol limitation)
so we d= o have our own cache in place. But obviously only contacts that
T= elepathy gives us avatars for can be cached.

For t= he record, in the years of KDE Telepathy out there, there wasn't a sing= le
report about this.
=C2=A0
> > - connect/set-status only some protocols (in ktp you can only go = online
> > or offline with all accounts)

Yup, that's also on the todo.
=C2=A0
> > - define what to display in tooltips for contacts in contactlist<= br>

Nope, swissarmyknife-sorry.
= =C2=A0
> > - ktp contact-list has no status icon (showing status, missed mes= sages)

There's a complementary Plas= ma applet which acts as a status icon. In Plasma5,
this applet al= so acts as a quick contact list integrated as an applet.
=C2=A0
> > - show history (chat protocol) from contact-list
=

That's of course possible, provided you have the co= rrect packages installed.

Cheers
--
Martin Klapetek | KDE=C2=A0Developer
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