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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    Re: BIC in libkopete in 4.6.90
From:       Lamarque Vieira Souza <lamarque () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-07-08 13:59:09
Message-ID: 201107081059.09755.lamarque () gmail ! com
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Em Friday 08 July 2011, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett escreveu:
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Lamarque Vieira Souza 
<lamarque@gmail.com>wrote:
> >  I think we should make libkopete private. Kopete is dying, almost nobody
> > 
> > cares about it anymore, only me is adding new features to it and in the
> > transition to KDE 5 I really doubt anyone will step up to port it to Qt
> > 5. There is no reason to incentivize anyone to use libkopete, so there
> > is no reason for it to be public. I will restore the symbol and declare
> > it deprecated. I am really thinking in abandon Kopete. Too much trouble
> > for almost nothing.
> 
> You may want to check this project.
> http://community.kde.org/Real-Time_Communication_and_Collaboration
> which I mentioned in a blog post some time ago:
> http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/2010/09/17/the-future-of-kde-instant-messaging-
> is-happening-now/

	Well, there is about six years that I have being hearding about changing 
Kopete to use telepathy. In the pre KDE 4.x era Kopete's developes postponed 
features in the current code base to dedicate to porting Kopete to telepathy. 
Unfortunately that did not end up well, today we do not have a telepathy 
capable Kopete neither we have a telepathy application (or plasmoid) with as 
many features as Kopete has. Some time ago someone created a telepathy plugin 
for Kopete, but I also have not heard from it for quite some time.

	The idea of using telepathy is great, the problem is that nobody is 
commited to finish the job, people starts an effort to implement it, but does 
not finish it because of lack of time or whatever. I would like to see more 
things happening in Kopete, I like it and do not want to use other IM 
application. But I also do not have time to work more on it, I have plent of 
problems to solve in Plasma NM and in my real life job. I still try to apply 
patches from reviewboard.kde.org to Kopete. I use two that still needs some 
work until I can apply them.

-- 
Lamarque V. Souza
http://www.geographicguide.com/brazil.htm
Linux User #57137 - http://counter.li.org/
http://planetkde.org/pt-br

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margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em Friday \
08 July 2011, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett escreveu:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Lamarque \
Vieira Souza &lt;lamarque@gmail.com&gt;wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;  I think we should make libkopete \
private. Kopete is dying, almost nobody</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; cares about it anymore, only me is \
adding new features to it and in the</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; transition to KDE 5 I really doubt \
anyone will step up to port it to Qt</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; 5. There is no reason to incentivize \
anyone to use libkopete, so there</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; is no reason for it to be public. I will restore the \
symbol and declare</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; \
it deprecated. I am really thinking in abandon Kopete. Too much trouble</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; for almost \
nothing.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; You may want to check \
this project.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; \
http://community.kde.org/Real-Time_Communication_and_Collaboration</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; which I mentioned in a \
blog post some time ago:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">&gt; \
http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/2010/09/17/the-future-of-kde-instant-messaging-</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; is-happening-now/</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">	Well, there is about six \
years that I have being hearding about changing Kopete to use telepathy. In the pre \
KDE 4.x era Kopete's developes postponed features in the current code base to \
dedicate to porting Kopete to telepathy. Unfortunately that did not end up well, \
today we do not have a telepathy capable Kopete neither we have a telepathy \
application (or plasmoid) with as many features as Kopete has. Some time ago someone \
created a telepathy plugin for Kopete, but I also have not heard from it for quite \
some time.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">	The idea of using telepathy is great, the problem is that nobody \
is commited to finish the job, people starts an effort to implement it, but does not \
finish it because of lack of time or whatever. I would like to see more things \
happening in Kopete, I like it and do not want to use other IM application. But I \
also do not have time to work more on it, I have plent of problems to solve in Plasma \
NM and in my real life job. I still try to apply patches from reviewboard.kde.org to \
Kopete. I use two that still needs some work until I can apply them.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Lamarque V. Souza</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">http://www.geographicguide.com/brazil.htm</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Linux User #57137 - \
http://counter.li.org/</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">http://planetkde.org/pt-br</p></body></html>



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