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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    Re: [kopete-devel] Re: kdenetwork/kopete/kopete
From:       Matt Rogers <mattr () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-05-08 0:49:49
Message-ID: 200505071949.49692.mattr () kde ! org
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On Friday 06 May 2005 10:58 am, Gaël Beaudoin wrote:
> Having a consistent and clean interface is great, but I agree with Olivier
> Goffart : msn and icq for example have far more status and they're far from
> useless. "Out to lunch" isn't the same as "away" or "occupied".
>

i would argue that it is the same, to a certain extent, and would rather call 
it a specialization of the "away" status.


> Would it be possible to have global/default settings with for example the
> status that exists in every protocols and, also, the ability to set up
> custom status for which we could choose which status to use in each
> protocol.
>

god no, not another option. at least not until we can sort out the current 
ones we have.

> Kopete need this feature. Personally it doesn't bother me so much but
> people coming from other IM programs simply don't understand why it is not
> possible.
>
> Gaël Beaudoin

Sorry, I'm still not convinced it's all that necessary to add every single 
unique status. I say if two or three protocols can support a status, we can 
add it, but otherwise, i see no point, it's just clutter in the menu.

Matt

>
> Le Vendredi 6 Mai 2005 02:30, Matt Rogers a écrit :
> > On Thursday 05 May 2005 07:21 am, Olivier Goffart wrote:
> > > Le Jeudi 5 Mai 2005 13:40, Matt Rogers a écrit :
> > > > On Thursday 05 May 2005 02:39 am, Olivier Goffart wrote:
> > > > > Have you noticed that MSN has more than 2 online status.  There is
> > > > > busy, be right back, on the phone.
> > > > > ICQ has also occupied, do not distrub, free for chat.  Same for
> > > > > Jabber, Yahoo, GG, ....
> > > > >
> > > > > If i want to set the status to busy globally, i have to select
> > > > > select my status in each different account.
> > > > > I don't see why one could go Away, and not Busy, Invisible, Free
> > > > > for Chat, Be right back globally.
> > > >
> > > > Because those statuses don't exist in other protocols! Kopete is a
> > > > multi-protocol client, or have you forgotten that? Global options
> > > > that cover only a few protocols don't make sense, IMNSHO.
> > >
> > > I don't want Kopete be the lower denominator.
> > > If the a status doesn't exist in a category for a protocol, then Kopete
> > > will try to fall back to the status which fit the more in the category.
> >
> > From my POV, it's not about following the lowest common denominator. It's
> > about being able to provide a consistent and usable interface, and adding
> > entries to the global menu that change just a few (or even one) protocol
> > to the correct status surely won't be usable, since you're looking at an
> > entry for every unique status in a protocol.
> >
> > > see this mail
> > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kopete-devel&m=111316716601158&w=2 you probably
> > > haven't read ( you probably was out the mailing list at this time).
> >
> > and it's so long, that i have no interest in reading it.
> >
> > Matt
>
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