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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    [Kopete-devel] [Bug 73830] Be able to add sub groups to groups
From:       Jason Keirstead <jason () keirstead ! org>
Date:       2004-01-30 22:04:52
Message-ID: 20040130220452.9470.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From jason@keirstead.org  2004-01-30 23:04 -------
Subject: Re: [Kopete-devel]  Be able to add sub groups to groups

> Protocols _with_ serverside list:
> 
> 1. aim
> 2. gadu
> 3. icq
> 4. jabber
> 5. msn
> 6. yahoo
> 
> Protocols without:
> 
> 1. irc
> 2. sms
> 3. winpopup
> 
> That makes it TWICE as much protocols with serverside list than without.

Not quite accurate. I feel you suffer from MSN syndrome... just because something
is not possible in MSN does not mean it should be abandoned everywhere.

Protocols that need server side list to function:

	MSN

Protocols that can function with or without a server-side list (and BTW, who should
have list synching as an option)

	OSCAR
	Jabber

Protocols that do not have a server side list:

	iChat
	IRC
	SMS
	WinPopup

Protocols I don't know enough about to say which of the first two
they fall in:

	Yahoo
	Gadu

Even if the last two *need* a server-side list, that still makes 4 protocols that don't
to 3 that need one. And even if you lump Oscar and Jabber with the first 3, that
is still only a 5/4 ratio.

*PLUS* Jabber's server-side list *can* have nested groups if the server implements
JEP-0083, which some clients and servers do already support (see TkJabber, Miranda
for example)

So you want to cripple Kopete's group functionality because 4 out of 9 protocols (maybe)
can't handle nested groups?

Other multi-protocol clients like Miranda do this and it works fine.

Like I said it'd be trivial, the protocols with crippled lists can just flatten the groups when the
export them to the server.
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