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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    Re: [Kopete-devel] Rewrite of Oscar
From:       Matt Rogers <matt.rogers () kdemail ! net>
Date:       2004-01-29 15:14:13
Message-ID: 200401290914.13911.matt.rogers () kdemail ! net
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:32 am, Jeff Stuart wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 01:53 pm, Stefan Gehn wrote:
> > On Mittwoch Januar 28 2004 18:40, Martijn Klingens wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 28 January 2004 03:40, Matt Rogers wrote:
> > > > Stefan, Penna, and I are going to be rewriting the oscar protocol in
> > > > the oscar_rewrite branch. the oscar_refactor branch is now gone
> > > > having been superceded by oscar_rewrite. Use HEAD if you want a
> > > > working oscar.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > Any chance of using libfaim or any other existing code instead?
> > > Rewrites
> >
> > I'm not going to use a fucking C-lib and write a wrapper for it just to
> > get lost when we have a bug in there.
> >
> > > are such a massive waste of our limited resources I don't like this
> > > thought at all. While I agree that it's perhaps the cleanest we just
> > > don't have the manpower for it.
> >
> > And you have no damn clue what you're talking about!
> > Thanks for your backing (not) :P
>
> *sigh* and NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome strikes yet again.  Did any of
> the three of you even BOTHER sit down for 5 minutes and consider possible
> pros and cons?  If you did, then please ignore this comment and I'll just
> slink back under my rock.
>

Yes, slink back under your rock, because we did. And if you think this is NIH 
syndrome, then you'd better go look at the code that we have now (that wasn't 
even started by any of us) and then go talk to that guy who wrote it about 
NIH syndrome. We're just trying to make the crap that he left us better, and  
in this case, a redesign and refactor is needed. 

> However, if you haven't, just sit down for 5 minutes, consider if maybe
> USING libfaim is a good idea or not.  And FYI, I would STRONGLY suggest NOT
> considering the language of it for the moment.  IE look at it in a language
> agnostic way.
>

How bout you consider the fact that this is open source, and we can do pretty 
much whatever we want.

> In my 34 years of life (and 22 years experience in computers) one thing I
> HAVE learned is to NEVER discount any CRAZY idea.  It's never a waste of
> time to consider what on the face of it appears to be stupid and crazy.  It
> MAY just turn out to be the next "killer" idea.  Time spent looking at a
> crazy idea (so long as it's not days/weeks) is NEVER wasted.
>
> P.S.
> 	Can we please try and watch the language?  It does NOT present a
> professional image of you.

blah, blah, blah. please go away and quit telling us how to code our plugin. 
go code your own.

Matt

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