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Subject:    Re: [Konsole-devel] Review Request: Change the "Bold" key of ColorScheme from boolean to tri-state
From:       "Jekyll Wu" <adaptee () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-04-19 13:38:10
Message-ID: 20120419133810.29500.99367 () vidsolbach ! de
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> On April 17, 2012, 12:45 p.m., Kurt Hindenburg wrote:
> > GO ahead - I would agree that the color boldness should be to only one - I think \
> > the profile one was an easy to find option for users.
> 
> Jekyll Wu wrote:
> Well, if you also think this per-color-bold(heritage from the KDE3 era?) is not \
> that useful or does not make sense anymore, then I think the better choice is to \
> remove this hidden feature. 
> And if applying this patch, there is another thing to consider:  
> 
> * "Bold=false" does not work before, while it works now(forcing using normal font \
>                 weight). 
> * "Bold=false" entries are alreayd used in some colorschemes,  like Linux, \
>                 GreenOnBlack, etc
> * That means uses who use the Linux colorsheme would find that they can't have bold \
>                 text anymore(because Bold=false works now).
> * To avoid that problem, we need to not only remove existing "Bold=false" entries \
> from konsole repository, but also write some kconf-update script to remove existing \
> "Bold=false" entries from users' konsole data folder. 
> I'm opt to remove that per-color-bold control, because the per-profile \
> "BoldIntense" option should be enough. 
> 
> 
> Kurt Hindenburg wrote:
> I'm beginning to think you're correct.  Having the hand-edited colorscheme Bold= \
> never really seemed like a good idea.

Well, that "Bold=" key can be used to achieve some interesting results. For example, \
we can mark all normal colors as "Bold=true" and all intense colors as "Bold=false", \
which effectively inverts the bold/normal semantic.

But yes, it is not that intuitive to put something controlling boldness into \
colorscheme.  


- Jekyll


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On April 15, 2012, 11:35 a.m., Jekyll Wu wrote:
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> (Updated April 15, 2012, 11:35 a.m.)
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> 
> Review request for Konsole.
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> Tha patch is trivial. Konsole now supports "Bold=true", "Bold=false" and other \
> values(which all mean using Character::UseCurrentFormat). 
> However, I just wonder how useful this per-color boldness controlling could be. We \
> already have the "BoldIntense" per-profile option to enable or disable boldness. Do \
> we need two levels of boldness control: per-profile and per-color in each \
> colorscheme? 
> 
> This addresses bug 168300.
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168300
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
> src/ColorScheme.cpp 1acb4d4 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104605/diff/
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> Testing
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jekyll Wu
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On April 17th, 2012, 12:45 p.m., <b>Kurt \
Hindenburg</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px \
solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">GO ahead - I would agree that the color boldness should be to only one - \
I think the profile one was an easy to find option for users.</pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On April 17th, 2012, 5:41 p.m., <b>Jekyll Wu</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Well, if you also think \
this per-color-bold(heritage from the KDE3 era?) is not that useful or does not make \
sense anymore, then I think the better choice is to remove this hidden feature.

And if applying this patch, there is another thing to consider:  

 * &quot;Bold=false&quot; does not work before, while it works now(forcing using \
                normal font weight). 
 * &quot;Bold=false&quot; entries are alreayd used in some colorschemes,  like Linux, \
                GreenOnBlack, etc
 * That means uses who use the Linux colorsheme would find that they can&#39;t have \
                bold text anymore(because Bold=false works now).
 * To avoid that problem, we need to not only remove existing &quot;Bold=false&quot; \
entries from konsole repository, but also write some kconf-update script to remove \
existing &quot;Bold=false&quot; entries from users&#39; konsole data folder.

I&#39;m opt to remove that per-color-bold control, because the per-profile \
&quot;BoldIntense&quot; option should be enough.

</pre>
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 <p>On April 19th, 2012, 12:50 p.m., <b>Kurt Hindenburg</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I&#39;m beginning to \
think you&#39;re correct.  Having the hand-edited colorscheme Bold= never really \
seemed like a good idea.</pre>  </blockquote>








</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Well, that \
&quot;Bold=&quot; key can be used to achieve some interesting results. For example, \
we can mark all normal colors as &quot;Bold=true&quot; and all intense colors as \
&quot;Bold=false&quot;, which effectively inverts the bold/normal semantic.

But yes, it is not that intuitive to put something controlling boldness into \
colorscheme.  
</pre>
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<p>- Jekyll</p>


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<p>On April 15th, 2012, 11:35 a.m., Jekyll Wu wrote:</p>






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<div>Review request for Konsole.</div>
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<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated April 15, 2012, 11:35 a.m.</i></p>






<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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break-word;">Tha patch is trivial. Konsole now supports &quot;Bold=true&quot;, \
&quot;Bold=false&quot; and other values(which all mean using \
Character::UseCurrentFormat).

However, I just wonder how useful this per-color boldness controlling could be. We \
already have the &quot;BoldIntense&quot; per-profile option to enable or disable \
boldness. Do we need two levels of boldness control: per-profile and per-color in \
each colorscheme? </pre>
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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>


 <a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168300">168300</a>


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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>src/ColorScheme.cpp <span style="color: grey">(1acb4d4)</span></li>

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<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104605/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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