--------------Boundary-00=_7H64SPF5I8FO7PLYDXPK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 31 July 2002 4:13 am, Nathaniel Gray wrote: | On Tuesday 30 July 2002 05:28 am, Vadim Plessky wrote: | > On Friday 26 July 2002 11:10 pm, Nathaniel Gray wrote: | > | It's an ugly font, but that's not the point. The point is that it's | > | rendering *differently* in KDE windows than non-KDE windows. Compare | > | the loops in the 'e' and the 'g'. In KDE windows they've collapsed, | > | but in the xfontsel and gfontsel windows they're fine. | > | > it's ok, as KDE uses QT and Qt3 uses Xft for font selection and | > anti-aliasing. GNOME1 doesn't have AA. Mozilla doesn't have AA, too | > (excpet spcila builds for Xft2) | > You get different results with different libraries. | | I see. I thought they all used the same library for rasterization. They use *the same library* but with different library calls/parameters. :-) In fact, you can render glyph using FT 2.0.9: * AA-enabled/-disabled * Hinting: enabled/disabled * auto-hinting: enabled/disabled Plus, you can enabled sub-pixel decimation (sub-pixel rendering) with help of Xft... If you want to play with all those options: download ft2demos from www.freetype.org. launch 'ftview', and invoke different rendering methods using keyboard. Not very interactive, but works. | | > | > Which version of FreeType do you have? | > | > Check | > | > #rpm -q freetype2 | > | | > | [n8gray@golux n8gray]$ rpm -q freetype2 | > | freetype2-2.0.4-1mdk | > | > please upgrade to freetype2-2.0.9 (or newer, if available)! | | That helped a lot. I guess 2.0.4 wasn't working very well. ok! In fact, I have test separate install of LM 8.0 and FT-2.0.3, with Bytecode Interpreter enabled. And it works fine (for TrueType fonts)! BTW: FT 2.1.3 will be released in a few days, her eis extract from David Turner's announce: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- II. New release: I'd like to make a 2.1.3 release pretty quickly, since the current code contains noticeable improvements to both the Postscript and auto hinters :-) However, there are still a few things to fix to prevent nasty color fringes to appear with LCD-optimised text rendering under XFree86 4.2 Another important point is the so-called "FT_Set_Hint_Mode" API. I've come to the conclusion that something like the following would be a good thing: typedef enum { FT_HINT_TARGET_MONO = (1 << 0), /* bit flags */ FT_HINT_MODE_ANTIALIAS = (1 << 1), FT_HINT_MODE_OUTLINE = (1 << 2) }; ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Complete mail canbe found at: http://www.freetype.org/pipermail/devel/2002-July/003757.html | | > | > Besides, I recommend you to turn AA On - as this will eliminate | > | > terrible jagged edge effect presented on your s/s. | > | | > | I tried AA and found that it made things look worse overall. | > | > This basically means that you don't have scalable fonts installed | > (TrueType, PostScript Type1) | | Nope, the problem was the old version of freetype. It rendered scalable | fonts really badly and anti-aliasing just made it worse. Anti-aliasing | looks *tons* better now. super! | | I've still got a problem, though. I can't figure out why some fonts are | being anti-aliased and others aren't. Arial gets AA even at small point | sizes but Times New Roman is never AA. Where do I configure these things? | I'm using the freetype module in X, by the way, instead of the default | Mandrake setup with xfs. /etc/X11/XftConfig I attached my XftConfig to this mail, you can delete my custom dir "..." folders from the file, but take the rest (I deleted some not-good font aliases from Mandrake's default XftConfig) Also stay tuned to KDE mailing lists, may be I will annnounce some fonts soon ;-) | | Thanks, | -n8 -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/ --------------Boundary-00=_7H64SPF5I8FO7PLYDXPK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="XftConfig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XftConfig" # # XftConfig # # Use with Type1 and TrueType fonts # # sub-pixel anti-aliasing match edit rgba=bgr; # Note that each application scans all these directories # during startup, so you may want to disable some to # get better speed. # Windows fonts - Vadim Plessky dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts" # Asian fonts from MS (gulimche, MingLiU, etc.) # dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Asian" # my (V.P.) PFB fonts dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pfb" # TTF fonts from Paragraph dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/parattf" # fonts from Adobe Type Manager dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ATM" # miscelaneous TTF fonbts (Else Ware, Bitstream, etc.) dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfmisc" # Tilde AG dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfmisc2" # # Standard XFree86 Type 1 fonts dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" # TTF fonts dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType" dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF" # User installed fonts dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont" dir "/opt/ttfonts" # URW fonts dir "/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1" # Localized Truetype fonts dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/big5" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/gb2312" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/japanese" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/korean" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/armenian" # temporary disabled to unload extra names from KWord menu # dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/thai" # don't yet exist, but i hope to include some day a package for them (Pablo) dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/cyrillic" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/viet" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/ethiopic" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/georgian" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/arabic" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/hebrew" dir "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/unicode" # Sun JDK fonts dir "/usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/fonts" # Sun OpenOffice, location depends on install dir "/usr/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1" dir "/usr/local/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1" dir "~/openoffice60/share/fonts/type1" # OpenOffice fonts from ttfonts*rpm dir "/usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType" # AbiSuite comes with URW fonts as well dir "/usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/fonts" # # alias 'fixed' for 'mono' # match any family == "fixed" edit family =+ "mono"; # # Check users config file # includeif "~/.xftconfig" # # Substitute TrueType fonts for Type1 versions # #match any family == "Times" edit family =+ "Times New Roman"; #match any family == "Helvetica" edit family =+ "Verdana"; #match any family == "Courier" edit family =+ "Courier New"; # # Use TrueType fonts for defaults # #match any family == "serif" edit family += "Times New Roman"; #match any family == "sans" edit family += "Arial"; #match any family == "sans" edit family += "Verdana"; # # Use monotype.com (andale) face where possible # match any family == "mono" all slant == roman all weight < bold edit family += "monotype.com"; # # otherwise, use courier # #match any family == "mono" edit family += "Courier New"; #match any family == "mono" edit family += "Courier"; # # Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local fonts # #match any family == "Charter" edit family += "Bitstream Charter"; #match any family == "Bitstream Charter" edit family =+ "Charter"; #match any family == "Lucidux Serif" edit family += "LuciduxSerif"; #match any family == "LuciduxSerif" edit family =+ "Lucidux Serif"; #match any family == "Lucidux Sans" edit family += "LuciduxSans"; #match any family == "LuciduxSans" edit family =+ "Lucidux Sans"; #match any family == "Lucidux Mono" edit family += "LuciduxMono"; #match any family == "LuciduxMono" edit family =+ "Lucidux Mono"; # # TrueType font aliases # #match any family == "Comic Sans" edit family += "Comic Sans MS"; #match any family == "Comic Sans MS" edit family =+ "Comic Sans"; #match any family == "Trebuchet" edit family += "Trebuchet MS"; #match any family == "Trebuchet MS" edit family =+ "Trebuchet"; #match any family == "Monotype" edit family =+ "Monotype.com"; #match any family == "Andale Mono" edit family += "Monotype.com"; #match any family == "Monotype.com" edit family =+ "Andale Mono"; # modifications from Laurent Culioli match any family == "webdings" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; match any family == "wingdings" edit antialias = false; encoding += "glyphs-fontspecific"; # extra aliases -- pablo # a nice default for sans serif (same as used in yudit) #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Arial"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "MS Gothic"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Gulim"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Baekmuk unigulir"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Lucida Sans Unicode"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Tahoma"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "BPG UTF8 M"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "GF Zemen Unicode"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "MS Mincho"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Pigiarniq"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Urdu Naqsh Nastalique"; #match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Ballymun RO"; # a nice monospaced one match any family == "mono" edit family =+ "Lucida Console"; # korean match any family == "Gulim" edit family =+ "Baekmuk unigulir"; match any family == "Batang" edit family =+ "Ubatang"; match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Gulim"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "Batang"; match any family == "mono" edit family =+ "Gulim"; # chinese gb2312 match any family == "Kaiti" edit family =+ "AR PL KaitiM GB"; match any family == "Sungti" edit family =+ "AR PL SungtiL GB"; match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Sungti"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "Sungti"; # chinese big5 match any family == "Kaiti" edit family =+ "AR PL KaitiM Big5"; match any family == "Mingti" edit family =+ "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"; match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Mingti"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "Mingti"; # thai match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Norasi"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "Norasi"; # armenian match any family == "Helvetica" edit family =+ "ArmNet Helvetica"; match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "ArmNet Helvetica"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "ArmNet Helvetica"; # indic match any family == "Raghindi" edit family =+ "Raghu"; match any family == "sans" edit family =+ "Raghindi"; match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "Raghindi"; # # If the Microsoft Web Fonts are not installed, we have to find a # replacement # # these come with Sun JDK 1.3 #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "Lucida Sans"; #match any family == "Times New Roman" edit family =+ "Lucida Bright"; #match any family == "Courier New" edit family =+ "Lucida Sans Typewriter"; # OpenOffice 6 #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "Lucida Sans Tur"; #match any family == "Times New Roman" edit family =+ "Lucida Bright Tur"; #match any family == "Courier New" edit family =+ "Lucida Sans Typewriter Tur"; # ttfonts from RH7 #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "Helmet"; # URW fonts #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "Nimbus Sans L"; #match any family == "Times New Roman" edit family =+ "Nimbus Roman No9 L"; #match any family == "Courier New" edit family =+ "Nimbus Mono L"; # western fonts #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "Blue Highway"; # XFree86 default fonts #match any family == "Verdana" edit family =+ "LuciduxSans"; #match any family == "Times New Roman" edit family =+ "LuciduxSerif"; # last ressort defaults #match any family == "Courier" edit family =+ "mono"; #match any family == "Helvetica" edit family =+ "sans"; #match any family == "Arial" edit family =+ "sans"; #match any family == "serif" edit family =+ "sans"; #match any family == "Times" edit family =+ "serif"; --------------Boundary-00=_7H64SPF5I8FO7PLYDXPK-- (Complete bug history is available at http://bugs.kde.org/db/45/45782.html) _______________________________________________ Konq-bugs mailing list Konq-bugs@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/konq-bugs