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Subject:    Re: Fwd: Re: [Kolab-devel] Kolab Format specs/Kontact: Question about
From:       Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel () pardus ! de>
Date:       2008-01-07 7:51:28
Message-ID: 87wsqm3wfz.fsf () home ! pardus ! de
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Hi Martin,

Bernhard Reiter <bernhard@intevation.de> writes:

> [Forwarding this to kolab-format@ to keep the context there, 
> please followup only on kolab-format@.]
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [Kolab-devel] Kolab Format specs/Kontact: Question about custom 
> folder types
> Date: Thursday 03 January 2008 12:14
> From: Martin Konold <martin.konold@erfrakon.de>
> To: kolab-devel@kolab.org
>
> Am Montag, 15. Oktober 2007 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On Friday 12 October 2007 15:46, Gunnar Wrobel wrote:
>> > > - folders with a folder-type different from "mail" are not mail, so
>> > >    SHOULD not be displayed as mail (i.e. hidden).
>> > >
>> > > Maybe this should be added to the specs.
>> >
>> > I'd be very happy if this could be done.
>>
>> I am unsure about the change itself.
>> I personally would rather see something that I do not understand
>> then to overlook that there are possibily additional information.
>> Also the default for a regular IMAP client would be to display stuff.
>
> We don't need the proposed change to the documentation due to the follwoing
> reasons.
>
> - We don't want to impose changes to standard compliant IMAP clients

This is something the change does not do.

>
> - It is soley up to the client to decide if a folder should be shown, hidden
> or displayed in some special mode e.g. task view, calendar view, contacts
> view....

Of course but the change only tries to suggest a sensible default. It
is not a fixed requirement.

>
> - Typically users can easily hide unwanted folders when using feature like
> subscription, local subscription or "groupware folder hiding". The later
> implies that Kolab clients implement it.

The concept of "groupware folder hiding" definitely includes what the
change tries to add to the kolab format description. But "groupware
folder hiding" is also not part of the format specification.

Cheers,

Gunnar

>
>> You will need to convince the people of kolab-format@.
>> We are quite conservative about changing the format because it should
>> be a solid base for client implementations.
>
> Actually some clarification and future developement is unavoidable even if
> some implementations decide not to implement the most recent version.
>
> Regards,
> -- martin konold
>
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