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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: RFC: Numbered paragraphs in new kword
From:       shaheed <srhaque () iee ! org>
Date:       2001-03-08 1:58:46
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Sounds good -> Agreed!

On Wednesday 07 March 2001 23:11, David Faure wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 March 2001 21:16, shaheed wrote:
> > As far as I can see, this is a potential hole in kword's concept of
> > styles.
> >
> > > Sure. Every paragraph setting _can_ come from the style.
> > > You were saying "it _has_ to come from the style", and I'm saying: no,
> > > not necessarily.
> > >
> > > > Look at it this way, if I get a text from someone, and I have to
> > > > print this, I will do the markup again. Then I can just create a set
> > > > of styles and select the right text and say 'apply style'.
> > > > This way I can walk through the document with ease..
> > >
> > > No problem there.
> >
> > On the one hand, a professional user like Thomas will want to have the
> > discipline of having each paragrpah comform exactly to a well-defined
> > style. Such a user might well benefit from something that limits the
> > kinds of modifications that may be made toa paragraph in deviating from
> > the base style. For example, it may be permissable to override the
> > character formatting (bold etc.) but NOT to override the "depth"
> > associated with "Head 1".
>
> Right, modifying the counter depth in a paragraph that has a Head style
> would break things - we should simply disable that in the UI.
>
> Note that on the other hand, many other paragraph settings should be
> changeable, without changing the style. One should be able to change
> line spacing, paragraph spacing, bullet type, indents, etc. etc.
> at the paragraph level without having to create a style for that
> (or if a style gets automatically created it becomes really awful !)
>
> > On the other hand, a sloppy user might not be so fussy. Worse, for styles
> > such as "Numbered List", we clearly are going to end up with multiple
> > depth settings to allow lists like this:
> >
> >      1. list-numbered paragraph at depth =0, style = "Numbered List"
> >      1.1. list-numbered paragraph at depth =1, style = "Numbered List"
> >
> > or, we end up exploding the number of styles used for lists like this:
> >
> >      1. list-numbered paragraph at depth =0, style = "Numbered List"
> >      1.1. list-numbered paragraph at depth =1, style = "Numbered List 1"
> >
> > Suggestions?
>
> Let the user change everything he/she wants at the paragraph
> level _except_ the depth of a Head style paragraph (which you already
> recognize as such anyway, for the special numbering scheme),
> and never autocreate styles :)
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