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On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, todd rme wrote:
> issue here.  By all appearances Calligra is making rapid progress,
> they are "getting down to work". =20

yes, and they should rejoice in that, focus on it and limit the investment =
of=20
energy into what is ultimately a distraction from that.

> don't see as any discussion or review requests about their progress
> coming through so I don't know.  So I don't quite understand exactly
> what the complaint is.

the complaint is three fold:

* people are wasting their own energy and putting the success of Calligra a=
nd=20
KOffice needlessly into jeopardy in the process

* they are spreading discontent throughout KDE with this approach to things

* they are dragging themselves through hardships that they have no need to=
=20
endure and paying a personal price they do not need to

(and yes, i know it's not my job to save others from themselves, but i=20
consider many of these people friends. in my world, friends don't stand idl=
y=20
by while other friends tear themselves apart. i've tried offers of support,=
=20
now i'm trying someting more like intervention. for me, that is far better=
=20
than standing idly by and watching the train wreck unfold in silence.)
=20
> At least by my perception, this is less an issue about the koffice
> name itself, and more an issue of sticking to prior agreements.  There

and those agreements have how much value for Calligra? seeing as they are=20
about the KOffice name, probably as much value as the KOffice name. it may =
not=20
be fair that agreements are not being stuck to, but there's a choice here:

* chase after justice for justice's sake, even if it means tearing down the=
=20
walls to do so
* concentrate on the real value and find success in that

it's not quite a black-and-white as that, but it's pretty close.

> was an agreement to rename applications.  This has not happened.
> There was an agreement to follow an arbitration process.  This has not
> happened.  At least to me, even if I didn't care a lick about the
> koffice name, I would still oppose these moves simply because they
> violate prior agreements.
>=20
> I also find it hard to understand you singling out the Calligra
> community for being petty on this, considering I would say they are
> simply reacting to an even more petty move by group A.  The attempts

first, you may have noticed i haven't been exactly gentle with Thomas eithe=
r=20
:) that said ...

if both sides retaliate against each other ad nauseum, nobody here will=20
achieve what they ultimately want to. what will be achieved is more emotion=
al=20
pain and suffering.

a "winning move" in this case would have been to step aside from this=20
particular battle in a show of patience and grace so as to allow the real=20
goals to be reached.

and when both sides failed to do that, they ended up escalating things so t=
hat=20
we now have our hard working and completely innocent sys admins being sucke=
d=20
unwillingly into the middle of it. that is just one of the negative=20
consequences, and there are no truly positive ones to offset that.

in such matters it is not important who moved first or second, who responde=
d=20
to whom or who took the advantage and struck first. what matters are the=20
results of the choices we each make. sometimes the cost of winning a "fair"=
=20
result are just too high, and sometimes there are much more valuable things=
 to=20
be achieved. in this case, both statements are true.

> Also, as a user and not a developer, I feel the koffice name has much
> more value than you seem to.=20

i know some people feel it has value, but that's a mistake.

go survey people about koffice vs just about any other office app name out=
=20
there. no, the real value is the emotional investment people here have made=
=2E=20
they are misidentifying that investment into the community and code with va=
lue=20
in the name itself.

> Not intrinsic value, or value it has
> built itself.  It has value because the name implies this is THE
> official KDE office suite.=20

amarok is not the official KDE music player. digikam is not the official KD=
E=20
photo management suite. (to name just two)

there are KDE alternatives to both of these apps, but they are dominant in=
=20
their categories anyways. it is not because KDE blesses them as such but=20
because they focus on their results.

Calligra would profit by following that example.

=2D-=20
Aaron J. Seigo
humru othro a kohnu se
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