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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: thoughts from community member on a split
From:       Andrij Zinchenko <andrez.the.slacker () gmail ! com>
Date:       2010-10-30 17:23:23
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2010/10/29 Cyrille Berger Skott <cberger@cberger.net>:
> On Friday 29 October 2010, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>
>> On 29 October 2010 08:33, Andrij Zinchenko <andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> > As for releases being pushed back, it makes sense to make a time
>
>> > disclamer, linked from every schedule page at the KOffice wiki. It can
>
>> > say something like this "Please, note that these schedules are dynamic
>
>> > in their nature, as is open-source. Since much of work on KOffice is
>
>> > done by volunteers, these dates are more of oriented dates than
>
>> > iron-fixed release dates. To speed up the development, consider
>
>> > donation to KOffice project". This small disclaimer kills
>
>> > overexpectations and gently explains the flexibility of the project`s
>
>> > schedule.
>
>>
>
>> +1
>
> You mean something like this "All information and plans must be taken with
> caution and are subject to changes without notices, decisions are taken on
> the koffice-devel@kde.org mailing list." [1] :)
>
> [1] http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KOffice
>
> Also note that nothing is decided with RC1 and/or beta4.
>
> --
>
> Cyrille Berger Skott
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Something like this but:

   - bit less corporate :).  "Is a subject to change withought notice" -
   sorry, but it sounds like a passage from some bank's credit agreement.
   - and a bit more elaborate (explain to users, why the process is such and
   that this is natural for open-souce project, especially of this scale)
   - and on every Wiki page related to planning on the top of it highlited
   with some color or otherwise marked

I am not asking You to do that. when You will be ready for that - just tell
me and I will gladly write this text. Users/testers will love reading it.

I am also ready to write a donation page materials, because it is a shame
that this project does not ask people for money. As we could see from
Krita's experience people will graldy provide KOffice with funding, because
http://www.koffice.org/contribute/ page does not provide an easy way for
people to donate :(

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<br>2010/10/29 Cyrille Berger Skott &lt;<a href="mailto:cberger@cberger.net" \
target="_blank">cberger@cberger.net</a>&gt;:<br>&gt; On Friday 29 October 2010, \
Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On 29 October 2010 08:33, Andrij \
Zinchenko &lt;<a href="mailto:andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>

&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; As for releases being pushed back, it makes \
sense to make a time<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; disclamer, linked from every schedule \
page at the KOffice wiki. It can<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; say something like this \
&quot;Please, note that these schedules are dynamic<br>

&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; in their nature, as is open-source. Since much of work on \
KOffice is<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; done by volunteers, these dates are more of \
oriented dates than<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; iron-fixed release dates. To speed up \
the development, consider<br>

&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; donation to KOffice project&quot;. This small disclaimer \
kills<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; overexpectations and gently explains the flexibility \
of the project`s<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; schedule.<br>&gt;<br>

&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; +1<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You mean something like this \
&quot;All information and plans must be taken with<br>&gt; caution and are subject to \
changes without notices, decisions are taken on<br>&gt; the <a \
href="mailto:koffice-devel@kde.org" target="_blank">koffice-devel@kde.org</a> mailing \
list.&quot; [1] :)<br>

&gt;<br>&gt; [1] <a href="http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KOffice" \
target="_blank">http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KOffice</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
Also note that nothing is decided with RC1 and/or beta4.<br>

&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cyrille Berger Skott<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
_______________________________________________<br>&gt; koffice-devel mailing \
list<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:koffice-devel@kde.org" \
target="_blank">koffice-devel@kde.org</a><br>

&gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>Something \
like this but:<br><ul><li>bit less corporate :).  &quot;Is a subject to change \
withought notice&quot; - sorry, but it sounds like a passage from some bank&#39;s \
credit agreement.</li>

<li>and a bit more elaborate (explain to users, why the process is such and that this \
is natural for open-souce project, especially of this scale)</li><li>and on every \
Wiki page related to planning on the top of it highlited with some color or otherwise \
marked</li>

</ul>I am not asking You to do that. when You will be ready for that - just tell me \
and I will gladly write this text. Users/testers will love reading it. \
<div><br></div><div>I am also ready to write a donation page materials, because it is \
a shame that this project does not ask people for money. As we could see from \
Krita&#39;s experience people will graldy provide KOffice with funding, because <a \
href="http://www.koffice.org/contribute/">http://www.koffice.org/contribute/</a> page \
does not provide an easy way for people to donate :(</div> <meta \
http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">



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