> On Wednesday 27 October 2010 05:43:28 Yue Liu wrote:
> > Hi, all
> > 
> > The screencast given shows the current state of the shape/stencil
> > selector in Kivio. I want to hear your opinions and suggestions about
> > it.
> > 
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rxqLFK6awKWLRttQTZpSGw?feat=directli
> > nk
> > 
> > Still many work to do to fully implement it. The filter can be used to
> > search for shapes you want, the add button (not implemented yet) is
> > designed to install shape collection from web or local shape
> > collection files. Right click on the treewidget will show a pop-up
> > menu provide expand all, collaspe all, and switch between icon view
> > mode and list view mode.
> > I also planned advanced features like save shapes from canvas to user
> > customized odg collections.
> > 
> > I'll upload the code after the community split issue is solved.
> 
> I think it looks good. I don't have that much experience with diagramming
> software, but to me it sounds like the right choice to have an always
> expanded docker, and not like the "add shape" where you would need an
> extra click every time, as i sense that diagramming is a lot about adding
> lots of shapes.
> 
I also agree that this is a good choice. Especially when the option to choose 
between list and icon view is implemented, it works for beginners as well as 
for advances users who can easily identify the shapes by their icons. 
And I agree that adding shapes is one of two tasks a user does most when 
creating diagrams. The other is connecting them.

For the ability to add custom shapes from the canvas, I find Visios 
implementation of it (yes, they occasionally do good UIs as well ;) ) quite 
useful: It lets you just drag things from the canvas to the shape collection 
and automatically creates a shape from them.

> And I also like that you have not gone for a ZUI which has loads of
> usabillity problems. Your chosen widget, has some of the same problems,
> because it doesn't allow more than one category to be open at a time. But
> at least the categories are always visible.
> 
> Oh and also welcome as the Kivio maintainer :)
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