--===============0320128792== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_JQa0Cb90GBjJu45" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --Boundary-00=_JQa0Cb90GBjJu45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas Zander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 10 July 2005 00:32, Alan Horkan wrote: >> kexi 0.8 has File, Close Project and Window, Close, neither seems to >> use the standard Action or have the shortcut Ctrl+W, would probably be >> best to have one standard close item in the File menu. > > Did you tell the kexi developers about this? The idea to post these usability studies here comes from me, as we want to make certain issues more public. > I'm pretty sure that > following the styleguide does not need a discussion on this list :) More detailed investigation is needed. All confuction can be related to fact that Kexi: - does into use Koffice's main window - inherits some actions from KMDI (the original one, not the current castrated KMdi) - 'File' menu means in fact 'Project' menu; we even have had it named 'Project' but for usability reasons we reverted to 'File'. > In other words; its a bug if they don't have these items. > I can't run kexi (don't have a database, so it does not compile) If there's any unknown bug, let me know... Since beginning, Kexi does not force you to have installed anything except kdelibs. Kexi _contains_ database server (SQLite). A warning you can read at configure stage is... just a friendly warning. >> Would also be >> good if to have shortcut for "Close All Ctrl+Shift+W" (even as a >> standard for all of Koffice.) > Close All is a file entry that should not be used, as has been discussed > on this list many times. It's not Kexi's custom action. KMDI library gives us "Close all" action in Window menu for free... I will soon add more hints here for remaining problems reported by Alan. -- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek / OpenOffice Polska Developers wanted! Kexi Project: http://www.kexi-project.org KDElibs/Windows: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDElibs+for+win32 --Boundary-00=_JQa0Cb90GBjJu45 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thomas Zander wrote:

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> On Sunday 10 July 2005 00:32, Alan Horkan wrote:

>> kexi 0.8 has File, Close Project and Window, Close, neither seems to

>> use the standard Action or have the shortcut Ctrl+W, would probably be

>> best to have one standard close item in the File menu.

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> Did you tell the kexi developers about this?

The idea to post these usability studies here comes from me, as we want to make certain issues more public.

> I'm pretty sure that

> following the styleguide does not need a discussion on this list :)

More detailed investigation is needed. All confuction can be related to fact that Kexi:

- does into use Koffice's main window

- inherits some actions from KMDI (the original one,

not the current castrated KMdi)

- 'File' menu means in fact 'Project' menu; we even have had it named 'Project' but for usability reasons we reverted to 'File'.

> In other words; its a bug if they don't have these items.

> I can't run kexi (don't have a database, so it does not compile)

If there's any unknown bug, let me know... Since beginning, Kexi does not force you to have installed anything except kdelibs. Kexi _contains_ database server (SQLite). A warning you can read at configure stage is... just a friendly warning.

>> Would also be

>> good if to have shortcut for "Close All Ctrl+Shift+W" (even as a

>> standard for all of Koffice.)

> Close All is a file entry that should not be used, as has been discussed

> on this list many times.

It's not Kexi's custom action. KMDI library gives us "Close all" action in Window menu for free...

I will soon add more hints here for remaining problems reported by Alan.

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regards / pozdrawiam,

Jaroslaw Staniek / OpenOffice Polska

Developers wanted! Kexi Project: http://www.kexi-project.org

KDElibs/Windows: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDElibs+for+win32

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