On Sunday 25 July 2004 15:41, p.stirnweiss_koffice@bluewin.ch wrote: > >-- Message original -- > > From: Nicolas Goutte > > >To: For developer's discussion about KOffice > >Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:52:42 +0200 > >Subject: Re: Bug 76757 : modification of style manager > >Reply-To: For developer's discussion about KOffice > > > > > >On Sunday 25 July 2004 10:50, p.stirnweiss_koffice@bluewin.ch wrote: > >> >-- Message original -- > >> > >> From: Nicolas Goutte > >> > >> >To: For developer's discussion about KOffice > >> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:36:52 +0200 > >> >Subject: Re: Bug 76757 : modification of style manager > >> >Reply-To: For developer's discussion about KOffice > >> > > >> > > >> >On Saturday 24 July 2004 19:07, p.stirnweiss_koffice@bluewin.ch wrote: > >> >> Hi, I am starting to have a look at this one. > >> >> I would like to change some stuff in the way the style manager is > >> >> organised. Let me know your opinions on these ideas (I personaly find > >> > >> them > >> > >> >> more logical, but it may not look the same to everybody): > >> > > >> >The problem of splitting dialogs is that it is only good if it is not > > > >done > > > >> >only in the stylist but also in each of the individual dialogs. > >> > (Especially > >> > > >> >for the points 2 and 3 below.) > > > >I want to add to my comment here, that it is also important, as KWord is > > > >supposed to get character styles soon and possibly the stylist dialog > > should > > > >be modified having this idea in mind too. > > Wow, this seems to evolve way beyond my current level of understanding. I > am not sure it is Junior level anymore :). Well, I had always doubts about marking this bug as Junior Job due to the Stylist, but I did anyway. :-) To be serious again: I do not mean that you need to do it. I just want to tell that layout (paragraph formatting) and character formatting have to be kept separated due to this. (Image layout dialogs being greyed out for character styles.) > Anyway, I have a patch that only move the Font position to the Font effect > tab. This solve the Format/Font dialog in 800x600 all together. And make > the Style manager just a bit to big (height wise) but the buttons > (OK,Cancel...) are now reachable. I do not know if this patch is > interesting if the whole thing is going to have a face lift anyway. Fix the bug first. (As we have not too much developers, it always possible that the changes would be for after KOffice 1.4.) > (...) > >> >> 2. Create a "Paragraph flow" tab (better name welcome) that would > >> >> group > >> >> > >> >> General/Next style (perhaps renamed to Style of next paragraph), > >> >> Font/Font Effect/Language and Hyphenation. > >> > > >> >No! > >> > > >> >General/Next style is at layout level (layout == paragraph formating) > >> > > >> >But font effect, language and hypenation are charcter properties. > >> > >> I did not want to move font effect, just the langage and hyphenation (I > >> was indicating the path, but I see now that it was not very clear) and > > > >the > > > >> next style. > >> > >> > >> I agree that langages are not always used at the whole paragraph and can > >> be used at a word level. However, I don't agree it is a character > >> property. The minimum item you will give a langage property is a word > >> and most of the time it is set for paragraphs. In order to set it for an > >> individual word we might need to add a langage sub-menu in the format > >> menu. I would definitly not expect to find the langage setting in Fonts. > > > >But it is a character property. If you want it word-wise you cannot have > >it > >paragraph-wise. A property can be at paragraph level or at character > > level. > > > >That is all. (That perhaps "font" is a bad title is perhaps another > > problem.) > > OK. I understand the problem now. (Sorry to be a bit slow but I just > started to have a look at Koffice and programming in general). I will give > a thorough thinking (yes, with the proper fuel, I can do this :) ). I still > think that there is a way to accomodate the programming constraints and > still have something logical on the user perspective. Yes, of course, I suppose that the user interface could be improved. I just wanted to tell that we have constraints so that we cannot mix the properties freely (because otherwise users would not understand anymore what is only paragraph-level only and what can be done at character-level too.) > (...) > > > >> >> Pierre > > > >Have a nice day! (...) _______________________________________________ koffice-devel mailing list koffice-devel@mail.kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel