From koffice-devel Thu Jun 13 14:12:00 2002 From: NOLARD Michel Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:12:00 +0000 To: koffice-devel Subject: Re: Bug#43832: No way to set default page to open up by default X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=koffice-devel&m=102397971617820 Le Jeudi 13 Juin 2002 09:47, Emmanuel Touzery a =E9crit : > Hello, >=20 > =09Personnally i'm not bothered by this screen at the beginning of koff= ice=20 > programs (so don't expect me to send a patch :O) ), but i think there i= s=20 > maybe a better solution (?). > =09asking the user is The Good Thing. now, do we really need to steal h= im the=20 > focus and force him to click on OK? In fact, this IS the problem : some users want to get rid of this superfl= uous click (my sister, for example), while others (like me) prefer having= the choice... Definitely, it is the point where work is needed ! I think that before ad= ding functionnalities, a series of usability polls should be made about K= Office... Another example is the "close the last document" thing : the user is work= ing on many documents, say in KWord. At some point, when the copy paste i= s finished, he begin to close all the windows. But, if he wants to create another doc, he has to create it BEFORE closin= g all previous opened document if he doesn't want to "suffer" the loading= time for KWord, as Kword will exit when final document is closed. It is contra-intuitive as the user want to : =09- stop working on the current documents =09- then create a new document to work on But he has to : =09- create an empyt new document =09- stop working on the current documents by closing them =09- start working on his new doc. I have still another example : when a user want to edit the header or the= footer, he has to go to View>footer or View>header, though in Word, sinc= e many years, simply double clicking in the supposed area is sufficient. I think this can be solved easily... as normal user don't bother of this,= but advanced user has to do it quite often... and there is no option to = automatically display header or footer... You see, there are lots of usability problems like these in KOffice, and = I think it should be something more important into developpers' minds as = the user has to use an application before discovering its exciting new fu= nctionnalities... =20 > =09Attached a shot from wordXP. check out the right of the screen. mayb= e we=20 > could have this, that phases out after a timeout (yes, i know, koffice = has=20 > more things to do before doing this kind of things :O), but just a=20 > "theoritical" possible improvement). >=20 > emmanuel I hope that noone will flame you for using Microsoft as an example. I won= 't start the fight ;-) I think it is a globally new behaviour in Windows XP and XP's products. I= t is a good idea IMHO, but it has to be followed by a closer integration = of this way of thought in KDE itself : widgets especially designed for th= is purpose,... But, if KOffice would show the way, I would be proud to be= part of the movement ! ;-) This a kind of new dialog system : You use the widget like if it was a di= alog, but there is no Ok, Cancel or Apply button, and it is docked in the= MainWindow. And it disappears when needed... --=20 NOLARD Michel D=E9l=E9gu=E9 2=B0 Ma=EEtrise et Licence en Informatique E-mail : mnolard@info.fundp.ac.be "Unix is user friendly. It's just very picky about who its friends are...= " _______________________________________________ koffice-devel mailing list koffice-devel@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel