Hello Keith, Some news from the KWord front: We finally found a way to get fully proportionnal characters. Instead of using an integer font size (e.g. 6pt at 50% zoom for a 13pt at 100% zoom) we use XFT_MATRIX, and an XftMatrix set to scale the fonts (i.e. we patched Qt to add a QFont::setMatrix(const QWMatrix&) This gives the desired result, except for one problem: the hinting (I think this is the right term) is still done for the initial size, e.g. 13pt. When zooming in, e.g. at 300%, the font is 39pt, so the shape of the letters should be much more "round". But because FT_Set_Char_Size is called with a value of 13, the shape is rather polygonal. The fix would be to either apply the 'scaling' part of the matrix to the size before passing it to FT_Set_Char_Size (not sure what the mathematical formula for this would be...), or to simply add an API call to Xft, and to Qt, so that the app can set the char size itself, in addition to setMatrix. The first solution looks nicer to me, though. I'll try to get some help from my mathematics-aware family, to provide a patch ;) Would it be better to maybe use a high-res fontsize (e.g. 13*20=260pt), with a matrix set to 'scale down', e.g. by 1/20 for 100% zoom? We'd still have to set the correct character size, obviously. With this XftMatrix solution, I'm also having problems doing the right thing at text layout time, i.e. figuring out the size the characters will have on screen (to e.g. position the cursor correctly, etc.). If I use the metrics at 100% and multiply those, it looks correct (with all the code we had to handle the difference between the proportionnal size and the real rounded size, cumulating rounding errors etc. - quite ugly). I'm trying to get rid of all that, but failed up to now. Somehow I don't seem to get correct font metrics for a 260pt... Ah, I think I remember noticing that Qt (and maybe X) has a limitation on font sizes. Maybe I should just use *4 as a reference font for the metrics, instead of *20. Thanks for any input on this, particularly on the FT_Set_Char_Size issue. I'm not sure whether to send the Qt patch (QFont::setMatrix) to TrollTech, given this Xft "bug". Things look nice at 125%/150% zoom though, unlike before; the hinting problem only becomes visible at 300%+. -- David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~david/ Contributing to: http://www.konqueror.org/, http://www.koffice.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today _______________________________________________ koffice-devel mailing list koffice-devel@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/koffice-devel