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Subject: Re: Questions about Kivo and KSpread
From: Bo Thorsen <bo () sonofthor ! dk>
Date: 2002-03-26 12:46:37
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On Tuesday 26 March 2002 13:31, Eva Brucherseifer wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: koffice-devel-admin@mail.kde.org
> > > [mailto:koffice-devel-admin@mail.kde.org]On Behalf Of Nathan Murphy
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 5:04 PM
> > > To: koffice-devel@mail.kde.org
> > > Subject: Questions about Kivo and KSpread
> > >
> > > ... and suggest which stencil sets
> > > should be made first for Kivio and I'll get to work on
> > > that too.
> > >
> > > I think such an addition would be useful for making
> > > Kivio more viable as a solution for diagraming ideas.
> >
> > Good timing, Nathan. I just joined the mailing list two days ago to find
> > out if there was any work being done on Kivio. (The name, BTW, I think
> > is a play on "Visio", a diagramming tool for Win.) Kivio (Koncept) looks
> > like it's got a lot of potential, albeit quite lean on stencils, and I
> > would love to see it really take off. I was, in fact, hoping to
> > contribute in some small way for now, perhaps stencil sets, although my
> > free time is quite limited.
> >
> > I guess the stencil sets I would be most interested in seeing first are
> > ones representing the Unified Modeling Language http://www.uml.org/.
> > I've designed several complex software systems using the UML over the
> > past few years of my career, and it has proven to be a very rich,
> > expressive, yet simple and easily-extendable language. It covers
> > software design concepts from Use Cases to deployment and packaging.
> > It's a rather daunting task in a short time frame, but could be tackled
> > in several stages. (Hey, anything that gets me off this blasted inferior
> > OS I seem to be shackled to...)
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> some time ago someone (I think it was wildfox@kde.org) told me, that dia
> stencils can be imported to kivio. dia is the corresponding tool within the
> gnome project and is at the moment the only usuable one due to its good
> collection of stencils including UML stencils. It also has complete dialogs
> to add data to the stencils. Only the usubility and of course the look&feel
> is a bit difficult. Maybe it is possible to share the stencils somehow with
> dia?
If at all possible, can't the two projects file formats be merged? This is a
so much smaller featureset than say wordprocessors need, so it should be less
difficult. I'm sure there will be differences that could be hairy to agree on
- just look at how much discussion the simple .desktop files can generate -
but it seems like wasted effort to have different sets of stencils since the
applications as I understand it have very similar capabilities.
Bo.
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