(and Killustrator in particular) to the Mac Darwin kernel? Seems like a really, really good way to get even for they did, both to you guys on killustrator, as well as Dmitry Skylarov. I'm sure Mac OSX's handling of developers has pissed you guys off majorly, but if it's relatively simple to do: Oi, the message ya'd be sending. Cheers (and I'll look into helping on documentation). David Moynihan http://www.blackmask.com All Your Non-Book Forms Are Belong To Us ------------------- Email sent using AnyEmail (http://netbula.com/anyemail/)