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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: Left paragraph border
From:       Stephan Hachinger <sharcor () gmx ! de>
Date:       2001-07-18 22:17:06
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:29:57 +0200
Thomas Zander <zander@planescape.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:40:31PM +0200, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:02:43 +0200
> > Thomas Zander <zander@planescape.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:52:06PM +0200, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> > > > Hello!
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, now I'm writing something and ... this one thing still
> disturbes
> > > me:
> > > > 
> > > > I want to create the following:
> > > > 
> > > > textetskajesjtawe?kf: 	-xyz
> > > > 				-xyz
> > > > 				-xyz
> > > > 
> > > > In M$word I do this: I write the first line, Return, begin to
> write
> > > the second line, and then drag the lower left indent mark on the
> ruler
> > > to the right side. But in KWord, I the upper left indent mark goes
> with
> > > it, so I have to drag them both first and then drag the upper mark
> left
> > > again. So, I think, the lower should be freely moveable, while the
> upper
> > > one should move the lower one (i.e. exactly the opposite behaviour
> of
> > > now), because the style of the paragraph itself should be maintained
> > > when indenting the first line. Any opinions on this? Hmm, I have
> > > discussed this with David some time ago, but now it came up to my
> mind
> > > again as it really disturbed me at "daily work".
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hmm, why do you have to move the other indent back again?
> > > Indenting the first line means moving the top ruler (this actually
> makes
> > > sense ;)
> > > And you can move the independent..
> > > 
> > > You naturally know that pressing return means going to a new
> paragraph,
> > > right?
> > > -- 
> > > Thomas Zander                                           
> > > zander@earthling.net
> > > The only thing worse than failure is the fear of trying something
> new
> > 
> > Oh, sorry! The text ("Diagnose (...)" in
> http://home.nexgo.de/stephan.hachinger/Test1.kwd) was actually without
> returns, but I wanted to give a better example than this special case
> for my suggestions and therefore this error :)... didn't know that
> return starts a new paragraph; I think msword doesn't do so, but that
> doesn't really matter now; maybe I'm wrong and have only never noticed
> it. Thanks for the hint!
> 
> It does, every word processor does.
> 
> > Hmm, I think... yeah... the users which often indent the lower lines
> of paragraphes would rather like the lower indent mark to be moveable
> independently and the other ones want the first line indent mark to be
> moveable freely :)... so, if one considers that it is quite common to
> indent the first lines of new paragraphs, I must admit that the
> behaviour is ok like it is. But on the other side, I think it would be
> good if this would be configurable, but perhaps not in 1.1 (->wishlist?
> Anyone else who votes for "making the lower indent mark freely
> moveable"?)
> 
> I still don't see why, basically I have _never_ seen an indent 
>      of the other lines (not the first) and not an indent of the 
>      first. I mean; this paragraph looks quite silly, don't you 
>      think so?

Hmm, it may look silly at first, but I think the test document makes the sense clear:

Diagnosis:	Morbus XY, morbus yz, stomache ache, sore <right page border>
		throat, morbus zwk

or do you think I should change the template for my dad's bills ;)?

Cheers,

Stephan

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