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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: The KOffice web site
From:       Shawn Gordon <shawn-gordon () home ! com>
Date:       2000-11-27 15:35:57
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These are good points.  Probably the first task is to identify all the
web sites that should be included in this rewrite.  My inclinitation is
to include the following, but I don't know who the owners are to talk
with them:

www.koffice.org
www.konqueror.org

devel-home.kde.org - how necessary is this now with apps.kde.com and
sourceforge now?  I don't know, I'm asking the question.

developer.kde.org

artist.kde.org - this should probably become a lot more helpful.  I know
we spend a tremendous amount of time putting icons together for various
applications and having a source for standard icons would be very
helpful to a lot of people.  I love the idea of this site, but the
reality doesn't seem to match the goal.

multimedia and games both seem to be in the kde.org theme, and while
this theme is much better than what was available before, and not to
give offense, but it still IMHO needs sprucing up from some artists and
professional web designers.

if everyone can help settle on a list of web sites to work on, then we
can probably start moving forward.  what do you think?

Shawn

Chris Lee wrote:
> 
> Sounds good to me. I'd like to agree on a more unified look as well;
> konqueror.org could use a makeover. Are we looking at a committee for this?
> Who wants to come up with a KDE website style guide? (no, I didn't just
> volunteer...)
> 
> > 2.  Updated screenshots and information need to be added.
> 
> This is true of Konqueror.org as well; I need to spend some time updating
> shots and adding new sections, but I'd rather have an easier way to do it...
> 
> > 3.  Applications that do not exist or are not part of KOffice should be
> > taken out of the web site.
> 
> (Not a KOffice web site guy, but I agree)
> 
> > There is a problem with artwork and icons in general I think.  Whenever
> > I ask about artwork I'm directed to the KDE Artists, or to the Corel
> > artist, but these seem to be blank alleys.  We all keep talking about
> > the web site, but nothing really gets done (until recently).
> 
> Guilty as charged. : (
> 
> > Personally I would like to see a bit of a snazzier unified look for all
> > the core associated web sites, but I don't seem to be getting any
> > consensus on this.
> 
> Hey, I'm all for it.
> 
> > The problem to the outside world is that it still
> > looks like a loose collection of hacker sites, and while that might be
> > true, I think we are hitting a time when some profesionalism needs to
> > start sneaking its way into these web sites.  The KDE developers have
> > been doing a great job on this stuff, but I think it's turning into too
> > much of an additional burden with everything else.  So, what can we do
> > to make it easier and better?
> 
> I know I should have just asked, but nobody ever told me any of the
> specifications of the webserver that konqueror.org is running on - so I
> wasn't exactly sure if I could even use the MySQL stuff. Whoever knows,
> please clue me in!
> 
> > My company has built some really cool database driven stuff into our web
> > site with PHP and MySQL that allows us to enter news, support and press
> > release information in some forms and have it appear in the web pages
> > immediately.  This makes it very simple to apply new information.  We
> > also have everything as templates and it's in CVS that updates every
> > hour or so.  I know some of these concepts are used in the KOffice site,
> > but we would be happy to lend these innovations if they are desirable.
> >
> > what do you guys think?
> 
> I'm all for it. Maybe a new mailinglist - kde-web-devel or something? For
> all of the web projects - KOffice, Konqueror, maybe even the main KDE page.
> Also, who's in charge of dot.kde.org? It still has a very kde.org-1.0 feel
> to it...
> 
> -Chris

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