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Subject:    Re: KWord tables totally broken?
From:       Wolf-Michael Bolle <Bolle () ID-PRO ! de>
Date:       2000-10-30 16:08:11
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> > Here is what I do:
> >
> > I click at the 'Tools' menu and choose 'Create Table'. After that the=
 'Insert
> > Table' window comes up. I leave the default settings at 7 rows, 5 col=
umns,
> > automatic cell heights and automatic cell widths, and leave the table=
 floating box
> > unchecked. So, the next thing I do is hit OK. The next part is quite =
bizarr to me
> > which might be part of the problems I have. My mouse pointer changes =
into a cross
> > of the shape of a plus sign which I would interpret as a request to m=
ark the
> > position of my new table. After much playing around I realised that i=
n that mode
> > I am able to draw a rectangle that sort of defines where my table sho=
uld be drawn.
> > I found though that this will only be used as a general hint on where=
 to put the
> > table because the table is created across the whole width of my page,=
 and is as
> > high as the font needs it to be. Therefore I would suggest to make th=
is process
> > more intuitive in that hitting the mouse button will go ahead and cre=
ate the table
> > instead of having me draw a rectangle whose size will be ignored anyw=
ay. Whatever,
> > I find though that after saving the text file with this new table and=
 reloading
> > the table is outside my text area. The documentation doesn't really g=
o beyond the
> > parts that are intuitive after clicking around either. Therefore, I'm=
 asking for
> > help on how to create a table the proper way.
> >
> > Also KWord seems to have problems redrawing the window. A lot of time=
s when
> > I click into one element in the table the whole document text goes aw=
ay.
> >
> > A lot of times when I leave KWord without saving changes KWord crashe=
s.
> >
> > KWord also isn't able to remember if I made a change to a document or=
 not. I can
> > load a document, close it right away, and still being asked if I want=
 to save the
> > file.
>
> The exact method you describe below gives me a valid table. Could you s=
ent me the
> KWord file ?
>
> Ps. if you use the manual height/manual width your table size will matc=
h the size you
> set. (as long as it will fit..)
>
> On crashing when you don't save, I don't have that problem, seems to me=
 that your are
> using an old version of koffice, or a different version of koffice vs k=
delibs...
> Could that be the problem?
>
> Also a lot of potential bugs can be found in KWord that have to do with=
 the way text
> is handled, as I am replacing that part with QT classes these problems =
will probably
> be largely over as soon as the new stuff is updated in CVS.

I'm attaching a small KWord file that contains four lines with "aaaa"s an=
d right
through it a table with 5 columns and 7 rows. I wrote 'a's into all cells=
 of the top
row and the left column.

I'm using the KDE2 rpms from SuSE.

I'm curious about what you will find in my little file. It's got to be ei=
ther a problem
with the file saver or the file loader

Michael

--
Wolf-Michael Bolle <Bolle@ID-PRO.de> (Products & Development)
* ID-PRO Deutschland GmbH * G.-Heinemann-Ring 135 * D-81739 M=FCnchen
* Tel. +49 (0) 89-67 34 61-64 * Fax -70
* http://open-for-the-better.com


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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>> Here is what I do:
<br>>
<br>> I click at the 'Tools' menu and choose 'Create Table'. After that
the 'Insert
<br>> Table' window comes up. I leave the default settings at 7 rows, 5
columns,
<br>> automatic cell heights and automatic cell widths, and leave the table
floating box
<br>> unchecked. So, the next thing I do is hit OK. The next part is quite
bizarr to me
<br>> which might be part of the problems I have. My mouse pointer changes
into a cross
<br>> of the shape of a plus sign which I would interpret as a request
to mark the
<br>> position of my new table. After much playing around I realised that
in that mode
<br>> I am able to draw a rectangle that sort of defines where my table
should be drawn.
<br>> I found though that this will only be used as a general hint on where
to put the
<br>> table because the table is created across the whole width of my page,
and is as
<br>> high as the font needs it to be. Therefore I would suggest to make
this process
<br>> more intuitive in that hitting the mouse button will go ahead and
create the table
<br>> instead of having me draw a rectangle whose size will be ignored
anyway. Whatever,
<br>> I find though that after saving the text file with this new table
and reloading
<br>> the table is outside my text area. The documentation doesn't really
go beyond the
<br>> parts that are intuitive after clicking around either. Therefore,
I'm asking for
<br>> help on how to create a table the proper way.
<br>>
<br>> Also KWord seems to have problems redrawing the window. A lot of
times when
<br>> I click into one element in the table the whole document text goes
away.
<br>>
<br>> A lot of times when I leave KWord without saving changes KWord crashes.
<br>>
<br>> KWord also isn't able to remember if I made a change to a document
or not. I can
<br>> load a document, close it right away, and still being asked if I
want to save the
<br>> file.
<p>The exact method you describe below gives me a valid table. Could you
sent me the KWord file ?
<p>Ps. if you use the manual height/manual width your table size will match
the size you set. (as long as it will fit..)
<p>On crashing when you don't save, I don't have that problem, seems to
me that your are using an old version of koffice, or a different version
of koffice vs kdelibs... Could that be the problem?
<p>Also a lot of potential bugs can be found in KWord that have to do with
the way text is handled, as I am replacing that part with QT classes these
problems will probably be largely over as soon as the new stuff is updated
in CVS.</blockquote>
I'm attaching a small KWord file that contains four lines with "aaaa"s
and right through it a table with 5 columns and 7 rows. I&nbsp;wrote 'a's
into all cells of the top row and the left column.
<p>I'm using the KDE2 rpms from SuSE.
<p>I'm curious about what you will find in my little file. It's got to
be either a problem with the file saver or the file loader
<p>Michael
<p>--
<br><tt><a href="mailto:Wolf-Michael Bolle <Bolle@ID-PRO.de>">Wolf-Michael
Bolle &lt;Bolle@ID-PRO.de></a> (Products &amp; Development)</tt>
<br><tt>* ID-PRO Deutschland GmbH * G.-Heinemann-Ring 135 * D-81739 M&uuml;nchen</tt>
<br><tt>* Tel. +49 (0) 89-67 34 61-64 * Fax -70</tt>
<br><tt>* <a href="http://open-for-the-better.com/">http://open-for-the-better.com</a></tt>
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