--------------DA0AF1DF3C88FC83BF0FB956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I was trying to play around with tables in KWord for my SGML DocBook > > filter but I got greatly disappointed. When I create a new document w= ith > > a few lines of text, insert a new table (3 columns, 2 rows) in the > > middle of them, store the document, and exit KWord I cannot reload th= e > > document and have the table where I wanted it to be. In fact the tabl= e > > ends up outside my text frame from where I can't even move it back an= y > > more. Any suggestions? > > There are 2 known issues with tables, > > * tables can not occupy the same space as text in your main frame. T= his is > logical and will not be changed. > * Creating a floating table which is positioned in such a way that t= he anchor > is moved creates a faulty reference to the table. You can ellimina= te this > by simply creating the table so it will not interfere with the ori= ginal > text flow > > Frames that are rendered outside the page can not be moved. That is not= a bug, > the bug is that the frame was positioned outside the page in the first = place. > The logic to fix that has not been written just yet. Can you give me a small example with every singe mouse click on how to cr= eate a valid table in KWord in a small document that I can save and reload? Here is what I do: I click at the 'Tools' menu and choose 'Create Table'. After that the 'In= sert Table' window comes up. I leave the default settings at 7 rows, 5 columns= , automatic cell heights and automatic cell widths, and leave the table flo= ating box unchecked. So, the next thing I do is hit OK. The next part is quite biza= rr to me which might be part of the problems I have. My mouse pointer changes into= a cross of the shape of a plus sign which I would interpret as a request to mark = the position of my new table. After much playing around I realised that in th= at mode I am able to draw a rectangle that sort of defines where my table should = be drawn. I found though that this will only be used as a general hint on where to = put the table because the table is created across the whole width of my page, and= is as high as the font needs it to be. Therefore I would suggest to make this p= rocess more intuitive in that hitting the mouse button will go ahead and create = the table instead of having me draw a rectangle whose size will be ignored anyway. = Whatever, I find though that after saving the text file with this new table and rel= oading the table is outside my text area. The documentation doesn't really go be= yond the parts that are intuitive after clicking around either. Therefore, I'm ask= ing for help on how to create a table the proper way. Also KWord seems to have problems redrawing the window. A lot of times wh= en I click into one element in the table the whole document text goes away. A lot of times when I leave KWord without saving changes KWord crashes. KWord also isn't able to remember if I made a change to a document or not= =2E I can load a document, close it right away, and still being asked if I want to = save the file. Michael -- Wolf-Michael Bolle (Products & Development) * ID-PRO Deutschland GmbH * G.-Heinemann-Ring 135 * D-81739 M=FCnchen * Tel. +49 (0) 89-67 34 61-64 * Fax -70 * http://open-for-the-better.com --------------DA0AF1DF3C88FC83BF0FB956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
> I was trying to play around with tables in KWord for my SGML DocBook
> filter but I got greatly disappointed. When I create a new document with
> a few lines of text, insert a new table (3 columns, 2 rows) in the
> middle of them, store the document, and exit KWord I cannot reload the
> document and have the table where I wanted it to be. In fact the table
> ends up outside my text frame from where I can't even move it back any
> more. Any suggestions?

There are 2 known issues with tables,

Frames that are rendered outside the page can not be moved. That is not a bug, the bug is that the frame was positioned outside the page in the first place. The logic to fix that has not been written just yet.
Can you give me a small example with every singe mouse click on how to create a valid table in KWord in a small document that I can save and reload?

Here is what I do:

I click at the 'Tools' menu and choose 'Create Table'. After that the 'Insert Table' window comes up. I leave the default settings at 7 rows, 5 columns, automatic cell heights and automatic cell widths, and leave the table floating box unchecked. So, the next thing I do is hit OK. The next part is quite bizarr to me which might be part of the problems I have. My mouse pointer changes into a cross of the shape of a plus sign which I would interpret as a request to mark the position of my new table. After much playing around I realised that in that mode I am able to draw a rectangle that sort of defines where my table should be drawn. I found though that this will only be used as a general hint on where to put the table because the table is created across the whole width of my page, and is as high as the font needs it to be. Therefore I would suggest to make this process more intuitive in that hitting the mouse button will go ahead and create the table instead of having me draw a rectangle whose size will be ignored anyway. Whatever, I find though that after saving the text file with this new table and reloading the table is outside my text area. The documentation doesn't really go beyond the parts that are intuitive after clicking around either. Therefore, I'm asking for help on how to create a table the proper way.

Also KWord seems to have problems redrawing the window. A lot of times when I click into one element in the table the whole document text goes away.

A lot of times when I leave KWord without saving changes KWord crashes.

KWord also isn't able to remember if I made a change to a document or not. I can load a document, close it right away, and still being asked if I want to save the file.

Michael

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Wolf-Michael Bolle <Bolle@ID-PRO.de> (Products & Development)
* ID-PRO Deutschland GmbH * G.-Heinemann-Ring 135 * D-81739 München
* Tel. +49 (0) 89-67 34 61-64 * Fax -70
* http://open-for-the-better.com
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