Hi all, Just to let you all know that the Staroffice released yesterday DOES include at least the Word filter. I assume (but did not check) that Excel etc. are also supported. The word filter is at: http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/sw/sw/source/filter/ww8 I did have a quick look, and the first thing is that the comments are in German. I don't know German as such, but I think I can understand at least 50% of what is there. The code has some comments...not enough, but some. So, at a minimum, we are going to be able to take advantage of the effort they have put into reverse engineering. For example, even a quick perusal of a small piece of code shows interesting things (e.g. SwWW8ImplReader::ReadGrafFile thinks that GIF files have mm == 94, compared to the documented value of 98). Only time will tell which is right. But at least, we have a source of truth other than the Microsoft version, wv, and my own fevered imagination! I look forward to on-going cross-fertilisation of ideas between wv, SO and our code. So, well done Sun! Thanks, Shaheed _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.