From koffice  Fri Jan 28 22:14:11 2000
From: Casey Allen Shobe <shobe1knobe () softhome ! net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:14:11 +0000
To: koffice
Subject: Re: One-click-printing
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Magnus,

This is very true, what I usually did in M$ Office and failed to mention is add
a Print... button to the toolbar, while also leaving a Print button, so I had
two.

I will work on a 'Print...' icon and add it to my project.  Now let's just get
someone to code support for it into the toolbar customization, eh?  I'll name
the icon 'printall' unless anyone has a better idea for the name.

- Rivyn (Casey Allen Shobe) - KDE Artists Team
- shobe1knobe@softhome.net - ICQ UIN: 1494523
- http://lightning.prohosting.com/~rivyn (KDE Devel Icons)

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Magnus Ihse wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > > > one thing I like about M$ office is that the printing options 
> > > > dialog only pops up if one selects File|Print from the menu or 
> > > > with Ctrl-P, but the job is immediately sent with the default 
> > > > settings when the toolbar icon is clicked. 
> 
> And I consider it one of the worst UI glitches in MS Office. :-)
> There is no chance of knowing that a click on the button will not do
> the same as the menu option, when they have done all they possibly
> can to reinforce the impression that the print button will do the
> same thing as the menu: put the same icon on the button as in front
> of the menu item, put it after the open and save buttons (which does
> the same as the corresponding menu items) and have a tooltip
> identical to the menu text (except for the "..." which one hardly
> notice it's missing) 
> 
> Don't know how many times I've been swearing over this when I wanted
> to print only the first page of a 100 pages long document, and find
> that Word prints it all without asking me...
> 
> > Indeed.  Maybe the default toolbar icon should be 'Print', which could be
> > changed to 'Print...' - dunno if this would be too much of a change or not.
> 
> The "..." is not enough to distinguish. Since "Print" normally is
> followed by "..." (and a dialog), the quick print option should be
> more explicitly marked, such as "Print immediately". And it should
> have a different icon from "Print", so you can see what the button in
> the toolbar does without trying it.
> 
> But with these usability issues fixed, I could very well agree that
> "Print immediately" is a good thing.
> 
> /Magnus