The above error occurs compiling ksupport and koffice. If this means I need to upgrade all egcs packages, what version do I look for? (RH does not have an upgrade of the egcs packages for 5.0.) If it means I have to steal the time for an OS upgrade, fine, I'll do it. Until now, I have seen little point in doing more than upgrades and adding software. This is an alpha EV56 machine. Thanks for any help. Mark Hansel PO Box 41 Moorhead State University Moorhead, MN 56563 ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593 email: hansel@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu web: http://wwwcj.moorhead.msus.edu