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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: Embedding
From:       Reginald Stadlbauer <reggie () troll ! no>
Date:       1999-09-14 22:44:27
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, David Faure wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:17:42AM +0200, Reginald Stadlbauer wrote:
>> I think it makes sense to be a tool, at least in KPresenter and KWord. Because
>> in both apps you use tools to insert an object. And you use the insert-part
>> tool in KPresenter to embed another part and the insert-part tool in KWord to
>> insert a frame with an embedded part. You also use e.g. the insert-rect tool to
>> insert a rectangle in KPresenter or the insert-textframe tool to insert another
>> textframe in KWord.
>> 
>> Now I already hear somebody saying: "But inserting pictures and cliparts in
>> KPresenter is done using the insert menu". This has a reason: With a tool you
>> specify the position of the size of the new object which should be inserted
>> (with making a rectangle with the mouse). If you insert a picture or a clipart
>> in KPresenter you can't do that, because the initial size == original size and
>> can't be specified by the user. So you don't have a tool to insert it, but you
>> can just insert it.
>> 
>> Yes, I know in KWord inserting a pixmap is again a tool, but there it is also
>> done differently (in a way which is not good for KPresenter).
>> 
>> So, I actually did think about insert vs. tool a bit as you can see :-))
>> 
>> To sum it up: A tool is used if you "draw" a rectangle or whatever to insert
>> the object, insert is used if it is just put somewhere on the page.
>
>I see the reasoning, but it looks like a developer's reasoning :)
>For a user, it doesn't really matter how the actual process will take
>place (whether he will have to draw a rectangle or not). He wants
>to INSERT something in this document that's all :)
>And before doing it, he doesn't even know how it's going to happen,
>so he doesn't know which menu to look into :))
>
>IMHO Insert should be used for inserting, 
>tools is only for modifying existing objects - that's what most tools are for.
>
>And I would at least s/Part/Object/ in kword :)

I'd even prefer Component :-))

-- 
Reggie

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