From koffice  Wed Sep 08 10:59:37 1999
From: Peter Penz <peter.penz () jk ! uni-linz ! ac ! at>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:59:37 +0000
To: koffice
Subject: Re: Problem: Close & Exit
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Jost Schenck wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 08 Sep 1999, Peter Penz wrote:
> > So my question to you is:
> > SHOULD WE THROW OUT THE EXIT AND ONLY HAVE A CLOSE?
> 
> I think for KOffice this makes sense. Having several views open doesn't start
> several instances of the server, if I understood this correctly. As there's
> reference counting, the server should be shutdown correctly when all views have
> been closed. So there's absolutely no need for EXIT, only for CLOSE.
Fine :-)

> 
> This would be different if we'd be using the type of MDI interface QWorkspace
> will offer and M$ Office has - as then all docs would be children of one
> window, the distinction between exit and close *would* make sense.
Yes, but did you notice that in Office2000 Microsoft goes away from the
Multiple Document Interface? Now you have seperat windows.

Microsoft isn't a good example for UI design, but I know they worked
hard the last 3 years to improve the UI (look at Explorer 5.0) - now
they drop the MDI, which has reasons :-)

> However, I'd hate this solution, as I like to arrange my docs freely and maybe
> on different desktops.
> 
> > PS: To MAC-experienced users: how does the Mac solve this problem?
> 
> The Mac shows only views as windows - the only thing you can see of the actual
> "application" is the menu bar. When you "close" all views, the program stays in
> memory; you can still reach its menu bar with the task switcher until you
> "exit". If you're not accustomed to Mac, this easily makes you collect
> application instances until memory gets low. (I don't know if this has changed
> in more recent OS versions)
I worked some time ago with macs (teaching internet...) and noticed,
that most people have problems that the apps stay in memory.

> 
> While I like the "document centric" thing (BTW coming from the Mac, not from
> Windows 95, as Simon suggests in his IDEAS-file for konqueror ;-), I think the
> KOffice solution is much better than the way the Mac handles it.
> 
I hope so :-)

>  -Jost.
> 
Thanks Jost!
Peter