Hello again, Well, ok it does not seem as though koffice is meant for me to use as I am having nothing but trouble trying to install it and all the prereqs needed. I have downloaded and installed egcs 1.1 and also the newer versions of autoconf(2.130 and automake(1.4). while trying to reinstall the kdelibs I get an error while trying to run make. the error says I do not have the correct version(2.13) of autoconf, or the correct version of automake. If i do 'autoconf --version' it tells me I am running verion 2.13. It also tells me that kconfig.moc does not exsist. I would appreciate further help. Thanks zment@midco.net