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Subject: Standalone KOffice for Linux, Please
From: Larry Short <info () diddywahdiddy ! net>
Date: 2008-08-18 22:42:16
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I understand that this is going to a KOffice mailing list; it is an idea
and a request that I am hoping someone might respond to. I first looked
for a forum or other way of sending this request. If I am in the wrong
place with this, I would greatly appreciate being told where I might
take it (I am reluctant to ask where I should put it!)
*I think a standalone KOffice for Linux would be a wonderful thing.*
That way it would be available to people who for one reason or another
do not use KDE. My reason, for instance, is that I work with a much
smaller and lighter distribution named Puppy, but I would like to use
KOffice, as it is lighter and faster than the other office suites, it
looks very good, and it is comprehensive and powerful . I wanted to
recommend a windows standalone too, but it seems like that is already on
the way. So windows will have a standalone KOffice and Linux won't? Oh my!
I do not think the standalone would be prohibitively difficult to
make--of course, I know virtually nothing. I don't know totally nothing
though, because I have been trying to prepare a standalone KOffice to
work with Puppy Linux. So far, *I have a 150 MB package that very
nearly works! * This is about one-fourth of the size of a full KDE
installation I guess. I hope to shrink it somewhat more also. All of
the programs start and all or almost all run well (depending on the day
;-). No joke. They all open, run, and save their respective files.
They also look good on the screen. To give you an idea of how I am
doing, here is a list of the things that are left.
If I can't convince someone at KOffice to take this on as a project of
interest, I hope I might interest someone in possibly answering
questions and/or giving some guidance. As with Crossover Linux and
Wine, I would be happy to make a small contribution of $50-100 for help
with completing the project. And if all of that fails, I would like to
try to find a list of what programs and processes KOffice expects to be
running or available. As I hope you can see from the Todo list, I have
gotten a lot done, but now I am left with the problems that are tough
because I don't know enough about KOffice. At least there really are
only these few of them. I will be grateful for any help. Thanks for
your time, Larry Short
/1. Dictionary. It is missing and the spell checker in KWord and
KPresenter doesn't work. I tried american.hash from Ispell and KOffifce
recognizes that as a dictionary but reports that it is in bad format.
Without american.hash spell check finds no misspelled words; with
american.hash spell check finds that *every* word is misspelled Wink It
appears that kde3.5.8 sfs (a package for puppy) has the same problem, at
least for me. Will recheck. My plan is to install full kde+koffice on
another distro and see what I can learn. Unfortunately the fix doesn't
seem to be as straightforward as installing one of the i10 or i18
language support/locale files, since there is no en_US i10 or i18 (en_US
is the built-in default. I learned yesterday).
2 Gamin. I remembered that I had installed libfam, which is a library
that KOffice would not start without (libfam is a part of gamin) but I
did not install full gamin. Installing full gamin does prevent
Code:
failed to find gam_server
Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-root-
3. I sometimes get errors about failing to find "applications.menu in
/root/.config/menus/,/etc/xdg/menus/". My previous experience with KDE
is that if one watches a console, KDE generates beaucoup warnings and
errors, even in a default installation from major distributions, but it
still runs apparently well from the gui. In other words, in some ways it
seems normal for kde to generate a lot of console messages, warnings,
and errors, but still run within parameters--this applies to the gamin
server also maybe. I surmise that the kde goal is to run stably as gui,
regardless of messages--"robust" in this way. This is all ongoing.
4. KChart. KChart (on Puppy 4.00) doesn't run for me beyond the intro
screen. Maybe I didn't check that previously. X goes to 100% cpu and
stays there. This is a show stopper. And on 3.01, KChart works fine, but
Karbon crashes at that same point (picking a template and going on).
5. Khelpcenter does not work. Some required files are not installed.
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I understand that this is going to a KOffice mailing list; it is an
idea and a request that I am hoping someone might respond to. I first
looked for a forum or other way of sending this request. If I am in
the wrong place with this, I would greatly appreciate being told where
I might take it (I am reluctant to ask where I should put it!)<br>
<br>
<b>I think a standalone KOffice for Linux would be a wonderful thing.</b>
That way it would be available to people who for one reason or another
do not use KDE. My reason, for instance, is that I work with a much
smaller and lighter distribution named Puppy, but I would like to use
KOffice, as it is lighter and faster than the other office suites, it
looks very good, and it is comprehensive and powerful . I wanted to
recommend a windows standalone too, but it seems like that is already
on the way. So windows will have a standalone KOffice and Linux
won't? Oh my!<br>
<br>
I do not think the standalone would be prohibitively difficult to
make--of course, I know virtually nothing. I don't know totally
nothing though, because I have been trying to prepare a standalone
KOffice to work with Puppy Linux. So far, <b>I have a 150 MB package
that very nearly works! </b> This is about one-fourth of the size of a
full KDE installation I guess. I hope to shrink it somewhat more
also. All of the programs start and all or almost all run well
(depending on the day ;-). No joke. They all open, run, and save
their respective files. They also look good on the screen. To give you
an idea of how I am doing, here is a list of the things that are left.
<br>
<br>
If I can't convince someone at KOffice to take this on as a project of
interest, I hope I might interest someone in possibly answering
questions and/or giving some guidance. As with Crossover Linux and
Wine, I would be happy to make a small contribution of $50-100 for help
with completing the project. And if all of that fails, I would like to
try to find a list of what programs and processes KOffice expects to be
running or available. As I hope you can see from the Todo list, I have
gotten a lot done, but now I am left with the problems that are tough
because I don't know enough about KOffice. At least there really are
only these few of them. I will be grateful for any help. Thanks for
your time, Larry Short<br>
<br>
<br>
<i>1. Dictionary. It is missing and the spell checker in KWord and
KPresenter doesn't work. I tried american.hash from Ispell and KOffifce
recognizes that as a dictionary but reports that it is in bad format.
Without american.hash spell check finds no misspelled words; with
american.hash spell check finds that *every* word is misspelled Wink It
appears that kde3.5.8 sfs (a package for puppy) has the same problem,
at least for me. Will recheck. My plan is to install full kde+koffice
on another distro and see what I can learn. Unfortunately the fix
doesn't seem to be as straightforward as installing one of the i10 or
i18 language support/locale files, since there is no en_US i10 or i18
(en_US is the built-in default. I learned yesterday).<br>
<br>
2 Gamin. I remembered that I had installed libfam, which is a library
that KOffice would not start without (libfam is a part of gamin) but I
did not install full gamin. Installing full gamin does prevent<br>
Code:<br>
failed to find gam_server<br>
Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-root-<br>
<br>
3. I sometimes get errors about failing to find "applications.menu in
/root/.config/menus/,/etc/xdg/menus/". My previous experience with KDE
is that if one watches a console, KDE generates beaucoup warnings and
errors, even in a default installation from major distributions, but it
still runs apparently well from the gui. In other words, in some ways
it seems normal for kde to generate a lot of console messages,
warnings, and errors, but still run within parameters--this applies to
the gamin server also maybe. I surmise that the kde goal is to run
stably as gui, regardless of messages--"robust" in this way. This is
all ongoing.<br>
<br>
4. KChart. KChart (on Puppy 4.00) doesn't run for me beyond the intro
screen. Maybe I didn't check that previously. X goes to 100% cpu and
stays there. This is a show stopper. And on 3.01, KChart works fine,
but Karbon crashes at that same point (picking a template and going on).<br>
<br>
5. Khelpcenter does not work. Some required files are not installed.<br>
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