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List:       koffice
Subject:    [Bug 140546] Koffice don't embed fonts during printing Koffice don't
From:       Kurt Pfeifle <pfeifle () kde ! org>
Date:       2007-01-25 0:30:37
Message-ID: 20070125003037.15519.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From pfeifle kde org  2007-01-25 01:30 -------

OK,

so just for the non-fun of it, I took the text of my bug comment above, and pasted it \
into an OOoWriter document, selected 11 pt Vera Sans, saved it as .odt and exported \
it to PDF. Files will be attached above:

 * "original" file: my-comment.odt
 * PDF exported directly from OOoWriter: my-comment.oowriter-pdfexport.pdf

Then I opened the .odt file in KWord 1.6.1, and verified it used the same...

 -> ...same Font type Vera Sans,
 -> ...same Font size 11 pt,
 -> ...same page size A4,
 -> ...same margins 15 mm on each border

At least *these* 4 tests it did fine! (Often didn't do so in the past). Then I used \
KDEPrint's "Print to File (PDF)" printer to create another PDF:

 * PDF created with KDEPrint's "Print to File": my-comment.KDEPrint-to-file.pdf


But now have a close look, please:

 -> Font supposedly used the same by both applications:
      [Screenshot "OOo-showing-font-settings-as-VeraSerif11pt.png" ()]
      [Screenshot "KWord-showing-font-settings-as-VeraSerif11pt.png" ()]

 -> Font display *on screen* (even inside the 2 applications!!!) is different; 
    There are different line and page breaks in both ODT apps for \
same-font/same-document (!!!);  OOoWriter renders the document much prettier on \
                screen than KWord:
      [Screenshot "OOo-2nd-page-bottom-(So-much-for-WYSIWIG-Fidelity).png" ()]
      [Screenshot "KWord-2nd-page-bottom-3rd-page-top-(So-much-for-WYSIWIG-Fidelity).png" \
()]

 -> Fonts embedded for printing are different; OOo's PDF is searchable, KWord's not:
      [Screenshot "KPDF-searching-text-in-OOo-generated-PDF-with-embedded-font.png" \
                ()]
      [Screenshot "KPDF-searching-text-in-KWord+KDEPrint-PrintToFile-generated-PDF-with-embedded-font.png" \
()]

 -> OOo-PDF has click-able hyperlinks inside, KPDF hasn't.


It'd be great if you helped me understand and track down all these font problems \
*exactly*. (I don't expect a solution next week or next month, or even this year). \
It's just that I'm puzzled by all these knitty-critty little-detail problems that do \
pop up as soon as you have to deal with customers who are used to see fidelity in \
their documents, when they use the same fonts.

The case here is simple: only 1 font (Vera Serif), only one size (11 pt), only one \
standard document format (ODT) -- but still 2 different applications show the \
different font rendering *even* *on* *screen* (not to speak of the printing that \
occurs later in the chain)! 

   Why does this happen, exactly? 
   What's the cause? 
   How could this be solved, theoretically? 
   Is there anybody around who is interested to do it practically too?
   What is the effort + timeframe for that then?
   Is that all really dependent on Qt's buggy PostScript export?
   Can't KOffice cooperate with Scribus, and use their stuff?

No doubt, it's great to see all those nice, advanced, revolutionary, creative things \
coming from the current KOffice development hotbed + playground!

But will the "normal", "simple" things also start to work, when these Big Things see \
finally their release day??


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(You can also keep the original .odt document for later reference.)
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