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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: Koffice -- SUCCESS!!!
From:       Benjamin Sher <delphi123 () zebra ! net>
Date:       2004-03-14 19:53:44
Message-ID: 200403141353.44859.delphi123 () zebra ! net
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Dear Marc:

Thanks so much for such a thoroughgoing critique. 

Looks like I was wrong. 

1) Yes, I found the .desktop for the other non-Koffice KDE applications. I 
don't remember quite where, but I think in /usr/lib/kde3/

Meanwhile, it's back to the drawing-boards. I have uninstalled Koffice, but 
NOT removed the source directory with all the executables.  So, it would be 
easy for me to try different installation strategies.

Here's the kbuildsycoca command:

Dell:/home/sher# kbuildsycoca
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
Dell:/home/sher#

Well, it looks like Koffice's home page instructions about KDEDIRS are the 
key. Unfortunately, as simple as this sounds, I just don't know what 
directories are meant and precisely how to type up the export command. If we 
finally succeed, I'd guess I would add the export command into etc/profile 
(or bash_profile). Right?

Thanks so much. I can't go on anymore for the time being. However, the 
solution may be just around the corner. If only I could figure out the exact 
KDEDIRS command. Koffice says that should make Koffice work. 

Can you help me with that command? Can we just try that? Is there a way for me 
to determine precisely which directories are involved and how to forumulate 
the precise command for the console?

Thanks so much again. I know you have been working hard on this. For me, it's 
time to at last go to sleep.

Is Koffice really worth all this agony? May yes, maybe not. But it is a 
challenge. But how could Koffice make it so damn nearly impossible for its 
own target audience to even try it.

Benjamin


On 03/14/2004 01:27 pm, Marc Heyvaert wrote:
> Hello,
>
> --- Benjamin Sher <delphi123@zebra.net> wrote:
> > SWEET SUCCESS! In fact, total success.
>
> Well, I'm a bit worried, because your screenshots show
> a very incomplete menu for your applications. It only
> has File Settings and Help ?!
>
> > Both you and others you mentioned stressed the
> > importance of the .desktop
> > files. I found them in a directory called Office in
> >
> > sher@Dell:/usr/local/kde/share/applnk$
> >
> > I tried to move "Office" to /usr/lib/kde/share
> >
> > But this directory lacked both a "share" and a
> > /share/applnk/ directory. So,
>
> This is strange, because if you run KDE then there
> should be other KDE applications with their respective
> .desktop files somewhere.
>
> >  I decided to move "Office" to what seemed to me the
> > best possible place,
> >  namely, to /home/sher/.kde:
> >
> :) I've removed mine this afternoon from that
>
> directory and KOffice is still running nicely.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > Dell:/home/sher# ./kbuildsyscoca
> > bash: ./kbuildsyscoca: No such file or directory
> > Dell:/home/sher#
> >
> > What that means I don't know. Perhaps you can
> > explain it to me. I mean
> >  whether it's OK, whether it's expected.
>
> well it means that kbuildsycoca is not there. 2
> mistakes AFAIK (1) there is no 's' as in sys it is
> kbuildsycoca not kbuildsyScoca and you should run it
> without the ./ because it resides (probably) in
> /usr/lib/kde3/bin on your system.
>
> Just run it, mine throws up a million warnings like
>
> kdevelop@linux:~> kbuildsycoca
> kbuildsycoca running...
> Reusing existing ksycoca
> kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Property 'X-KDE-Weight' is
> defined multip
> le times (KCModule)
> kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
> Utilities/kfile
> replacepart.desktop has Type=Service but is located
> under "apps"
>  instead of "services"
> kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service :
> Utilities/kfilerepla
> cepart.desktop
> kio (KMimeType): WARNING:
> 'kdeveloplanguagesupport.desktop' spec
> ifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'KDevelop/Part'
> kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'SuSE/Graphics/gimp.desktop'
> specifies un
> defined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xcf'
> kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'hk_kdegridpart.desktop'
> specifies undefi
> ned mimetype/servicetype 'database/grid'
>
> yes I know, all about mimetypes (I wish I really
> understood this) but it doesn't seem to affect my
> system though.
>
> > Here are data from the console:
> >
> > her@Dell:~$ echo $KDEDIRS
> >
> > sher@Dell:~$ su
> > Password:
> > Dell:/home/sher# echo $KDEDIRS
> >
> > Dell:/home/sher#
>
> Now this is where your real problem lies I think. You
> don't have KDEDIRS set. It is possible set it in
> .bash_profile or .bashrc and log back in and check if
> they are set. It is also possible to set it in a
> profile file somewhere so that it is systemwide, but
> this can be different depending on your distribution I
> think. So I prefer to do it locally. But if you do
> 'su' do it with '-' so 'su - username'.
>
>
> Now I really want to understand this. (As I have
> struggled with it to much myself). I think that in the
> coming days I will test some more and I will try my
> hand at writing a howto on this. I would really
> appreciate some input from people who really
> understand this :)
>
> Marc
>
>
Benjamin Sher
delphi123@zebra.net

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