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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: RTF vs DOC (was Re: Office 11 Cuts the Cord to Windows 95, 98, 98SE, Me, NT)
From:       Nicolas Goutte <nicog () snafu ! de>
Date:       2002-11-08 23:25:38
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I had already explained in a previous email why the idea is not very good. (In 
MS Word the file is saved with an RTF extension, making people think that 
their changes are lost.)

However, I am just thinking of having a dialog for the MS Word export warning 
the user of this masquerade (and explaining it) and letting the user decide 
if he wants it or not.

We have all we need in the RTF export, if the checking of the 
mime type decide if the dialog is show or not. (The .desktop file must be 
changed too!)

If we do it this way, while saving as pseudo-MS-Word, I think that all 
OOWriter extensions should be disabled in RTF, but not in the normal RTF 
modus. (Something like adding a method RTFWorker::setAllowExtension(bool), 
which would change a private bool variable in RTFWorker.)

For example RTFExport:convert could become:

KoFilter::ConversionStatus RTFExport::convert( const QCString& from, const 
QCString& to )
{
    if (to != "text/rtf")
    {
        return KoFilter::NotImplemented;
    }

   bool allowPrivate=true;
   if (from == "application/msword")
   {
	allowPrivate=false;
        // TODO: show dialog
    }
   else if (from != "application/x-kword") 
    {
        return KoFilter::NotImplemented;
    }

    KImageIO::registerFormats();

    RTFWorker* worker=new RTFWorker();

    worker->setAllowPrivateExtension(allowPrivate);

    KWEFKWordLeader* leader=new KWEFKWordLeader(worker);

    if (!leader)
    {
        kdError(30503) << "Cannot create Worker! Aborting!" << endl;
        delete worker;
        return KoFilter::StupidError;
    }

    KoFilter::ConversionStatus result=leader->convert(m_chain, from,to );

    delete leader;
    delete worker;

    return result;
}

Have a nice day/evening/night!

On Friday 08 November 2002 22:32, Ariya Hidayat wrote:
> > mmh, I don't agree with it: people just make enought confusion
> > about the difference between a file format (rtf, doc, etc.) and a
> > document type (letter, spreadsheet, etc.), we don't have to
> > create some more trick IMHO...
>
> So there must be some good reason why Microsoft also does the trick. Try
> this: create a document using Word 97 and save to a file as 'Word 6/95'.
> And then open your file using any text editor and you'll see that the very
> first characters are something like "{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\uc1..." which
> clearly indicates that this is RTF, not real Word 95 format.
>
> Conclusion: In MS Word 97, a document saved as Word 95 is actually RTF
> document, albeit MS Word put .doc extension to the filename.
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