From koffice  Tue Mar 26 16:03:22 2002
From: owner () bugs ! kde ! org (Stephan Kulow)
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:03:22 +0000
To: koffice
Subject: Bug#32550: marked as done (don't compress the koffice files) by Frans Englich <frans.englich@telia.c
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Your message with subj: don't compress the koffice files

HI Charles,

a) I might be totally wrong but I don't see how this could be  a motivati=
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_not_ to compress. If they were shared, what would be the benefits of=20
compressing them?

b) But that is inpractical. Besides, ordinary user Joe are not able to=20
compress them manually and doesn't understand why all the extra work is g=
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for. I think it's the developer's/the application's responsibility.

c) So just because we have the bandwidth we shouldn't optimize it? Perhap=
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there's people using KOffice who don't have that fat bandwidth?

d) Absolutely true. But I have no plans of writing source code in kwd fil=
es.=20
Ofcourse, there's the demo files but they doesn't change regulary.. Or am=
 I=20
missing something?

e) First of all, the KOffice lib's provide beautiful solutions(KoStore ie=
) for=20
handling these tremendously complicated file formats. The second argument=
 is=20
just irrelevant; people send html files uncompressed because they're smal=
l,=20
they don't know how to compress or they just find it too complicated and=20
cumbersome to do it. This doesn't apply to KOffice, we don't compress htm=
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files but our own format, ie. *.kwd. And there's many good reason to comp=
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those.

f) This is true. AFAIK KOffice will change to zip instead of tar/gz, just=
 as=20
OpenOffice does to solve this problem.


Your request will probably never be implemented. If you got comments or =20
questions contact me in private. This bug report is now closed.

cheers,
Frans=20
frans.englich@telia.com

has caused the attached bug report to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

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Stephan Kulow
(administrator, KDE bugs database)

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Subject: don't compress the koffice files
From: charles@kde.org

Package:           bugs.kde.org
Version:           KDE 2.9.0 CVS/CVSup/Snapshot
Severity:          wishlist
Installed from:    Compiled sources
Compiler:          gcc version 2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease) (mdk 7.1)
OS:                Linux
OS/Compiler notes: Not Specified

a) files at home are rarely shared

b) you can gzip a file manually

c) offices usually have ethernet, where a 100kb uncompressed file is reasonable

d) gzipping a file makes cvs and rcs almost completely useless

e) there's no point in further complicating a file.  Nobody compressed HTML files when they send them to friends, do they?

f) if there is a large image in the tar, gzipping it will take an eternity, and will yeild very little compression (considering everyone uses a png or jpeg anyway)

In other words, leave it as a plain tar file, which still can use cvs.

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