Today I just run into 2 nice kde applications which could be part of koffice. 1 is a money application, called opale and has been developed with the koffice document model (according to the developers website) refer to: http://orzel.freehackers.org/opale/index.html The other is a MS filter for tnef type application, but especially to be integrated with kde. I'm not sure wether it belongs here or at the kmail list. Hopefully it does not matter too much. Refer too: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ktnef/ -- Richard Bos For those without home the journey is endless