On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Thorsten Schnebeck wrote: > Am Samstag, 9. Februar 2002 22:21 schrieb Navindra Umanee: > > [hmmm, getting offtopic fast for koffice-devel. redirecting.] > > > > Eric S. Raymond wrote: > [delete most of it, because its mainly impolite] > > One of his notions is right: > The "opening view" of many KDE apps shows far too many feature. > Looking at current Koffice CVS KPresenter and Kontour are showing nearly all > of their toolbars, special function und special areas. I'm glad KWord isn't in that list. It used to have the same problem, and I think we managed to make its UI more streamlined, showing what's necessary and not more (actually the border toolbar being hidden confused a few users, but that's only because toggling frame borders in the frame dialog is missing). The same work needs to be done on KPresenter (dunno about Kontour), I totally agree. Help welcome - this is basically about reorganizing the .rc file, no need to know C++ to do that! David.