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List:       koffice
Subject:    Comments on Kword (part II)
From:       "=?iso-8859-1?q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Wehowski?=" <frederic.wehowski () laposte ! net>
Date:       2001-12-09 11:38:46
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Hi,

I have followed the discussion that has happened after my 
first post. Here are my comments:

> > - Kword take a lot of time to open the document in kwd 
format, 
> > maybe over a minute and Kword is not very responsive to 
work 
> > on this document. But this can be done. 
> You're talking about the loading of a .doc ? Err, do that 
only once, then save as .kwd. 
> Loading from .kwd is much much faster. 
No, I am talking about the kwd. The " one minute " statement 
was exagerated but time is very long when you are waiting. I 
have made a measurement. So, when I open this kwd file, this 
happens:
For 4 secondes, nothing is happens
For the next 3 seconds, a bar goes from 0% to 100%
For the next 2 seconds, nothing happens
For the next 12 seconds, the first page of my document is 
visible but I can not do anything and the toolbar are not yet 
loaded. So Kword take a total of 21 seconds to oppen this 
file. It is looking very long. You must know that:
- I have a K6 550Mhz with 256Mb of Ram
- I am using Mandrake 8.1
- This document is over 150 pages long (but it is just text, 
nothing is embeded)
- Word 2000 under Windows 98 opens the .doc equivalent 
document in 2 seconds on the same machine

I have follow the long discussion about the fact that it is 
not easy to find the way to insert a "jump to the next page". 
It is looking like this function is called today "Hard Frame 
Break ". So why not just calling it "Hard Frame/Page Break" ??


> > - When I copy/paste a part of this document in a new one 
to 
> > create a smaller document, the styles are lost. The text 
is 
> > good looking (Ex: bold like with the style) but the style 
are 
> > no more there. 
> But if you copy just a part of a paragraph its expected 
behavior. When I set a paragraph > to (for example) Head1 and 
copy 1 character, pasting it elsewere will result in me 
> pasting a character in the font/size of the Head1 style. If 
it would set the style the whole > paragraph would change. 
No, I am not just copying a paragraph but a few pages with a 
lot of differents style. But I have today more information:
It happens only when the style have been modified or newly 
created. To reproduce this, take a document (even short) that 
use the default style "title 1", "title 2", "title 3", 
and "normal" for the text. Then make a change in the "title 2" 
style (exemple, change the police and the font size). Now, 
copy a big part of this text in the clipboard, open a new 
Kword and paste the clipboard. The text is good looking but 
the "title 2" style has been moved to "normal" style. If all 
the default style have been changed (with was my case), then 
the style are all lost, which is a big pain on a 150 pages 
document.


There is also 2 little things missing today in kword and that 
exist in Word: 
- The styles can appear in the left part of the document (this 
is an option)
- It is possible to select a line/full paragraph by clicking 
in the left marging of the document

Anyway, I have also tried Abiword and I have stopped quickly 
for the following reasons:
- There is no style editor
- It crashes when trying to import my document from Word 
(remember, it is just text, nothing exotic)
- There is no possibility to have a speadsheet or a vector 
drawing easily embedded
- Kword is fully integrated in KDE, and therefore uses the 
same widget/look

By the way, where is Krayon??

Fr=E9d=E9ric.


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