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Subject: Re: [Kmymoney-devel] Review Request 112847: Display equity accounts when enabled in payees page and
From: "Alvaro Soliverez" <asoliverez () kde ! org>
Date: 2014-02-14 13:27:04
Message-ID: 20140214132704.24564.15523 () probe ! kde ! org
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> On Sept. 21, 2013, 2:24 p.m., Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
> > I fail to see why you would want equity accounts displayed for imports. Can you \
> > explain the use case?
> > Keep in mind that equity accounts are not stock or share accounts of some kind.
>
> Ralf Habacker wrote:
> To be able to import opening balances for example when using german template "all \
> accounts", which have an account "Equity"->"Opening balances". Otherwise I would \
> have to manual enter the opening balances for all related accounts by hand.
These opening balances are exactly that, opening balances, and should not have a \
payee assigned.
That account is to balance the entry when you start using KMyMoney and you enter the \
opening balances for your asset and liability accounts. As per double-entry \
accounting, all transactions have to be balanced, and money can't just pop out of the \
blue.
eg. you start using KMM on Jan 1, but you already had a bank account by that date. \
You create the account and enter the balance on that date. To balance that \
transaction, a split is assigned to "Equity/Opening balances". No payees are \
involved.
Sorry for the delay, this went under my radar.
- Alvaro
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On Sept. 21, 2013, 12:41 p.m., Ralf Habacker wrote:
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> (Updated Sept. 21, 2013, 12:41 p.m.)
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> Review request for KMymoney and Cristian Oneț.
>
>
> Repository: kmymoney
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> Description
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> When enabled display of equity accounts with 'settings->general->filter->show \
> equity accounts' equity accounts are not displayed in the "Default Account" tab of \
> payee page and in the unknown payee import dialog.
> The related bug could be triggered with:
> 1. create a new file
> 2. select the german skr03 standard chart of accounts.
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> Diffs
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> kmymoney/converter/mymoneystatementreader.cpp 5619cc2
> kmymoney/views/kgloballedgerview.cpp 2057b47
> kmymoney/views/kpayeesview.cpp 69697e6
>
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112847/diff/
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> Testing
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> git master
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> Thanks,
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> Ralf Habacker
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <p style="margin-top: 0;">On September 21st, 2013, 2:24 p.m. UTC, <b>Alvaro \
Soliverez</b> wrote:</p> <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">I fail to see why you would want equity accounts displayed for imports. \
Can you explain the use case?
Keep in mind that equity accounts are not stock or share accounts of some kind.</pre>
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<p>On October 2nd, 2013, 5:36 a.m. UTC, <b>Ralf Habacker</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">To be able to import \
opening balances for example when using german template "all accounts", \
which have an account "Equity"->"Opening balances". Otherwise \
I would have to manual enter the opening balances for all related accounts by \
hand.</pre> </blockquote>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">These opening balances \
are exactly that, opening balances, and should not have a payee assigned.
That account is to balance the entry when you start using KMyMoney and you enter the \
opening balances for your asset and liability accounts. As per double-entry \
accounting, all transactions have to be balanced, and money can't just pop out of \
the blue.
eg. you start using KMM on Jan 1, but you already had a bank account by that date. \
You create the account and enter the balance on that date. To balance that \
transaction, a split is assigned to "Equity/Opening balances". No payees \
are involved.
Sorry for the delay, this went under my radar.
</pre>
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<p>- Alvaro</p>
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<p>On September 21st, 2013, 12:41 p.m. UTC, Ralf Habacker wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KMymoney and Cristian Oneț.</div>
<div>By Ralf Habacker.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Sept. 21, 2013, 12:41 p.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kmymoney
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">When enabled display of equity accounts with \
'settings->general->filter->show equity accounts' equity accounts \
are not displayed in the "Default Account" tab of payee page and in the \
unknown payee import dialog.
The related bug could be triggered with:
1. create a new file
2. select the german skr03 standard chart of accounts.
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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break-word;">git master</pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>kmymoney/converter/mymoneystatementreader.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(5619cc2)</span></li>
<li>kmymoney/views/kgloballedgerview.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(2057b47)</span></li>
<li>kmymoney/views/kpayeesview.cpp <span style="color: grey">(69697e6)</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112847/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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