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List:       kmdi-devel
Subject:    Re: KMDI is dead! Long live KMDI!
From:       Jaroslaw Staniek <js () iidea ! pl>
Date:       2006-01-26 20:31:01
Message-ID: 43D93185.9000500 () iidea ! pl
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Christoph Cullmann said the following, On 2006-01-16 20:50:

> On Thursday 12 January 2006 10:31, Jens Herden wrote:
> 
>>>I'm curious to know what people's opinions are as far as the future of
>>>KMDI for KDE 4 goes. Should it just go away? Should we have some form of
>>>lightweight API based on the KateMDI stuff or the new KDevelop stuff?
>>>Should we use something else completely new that falls out of the sky? ;)
>>
>>Please do not let it go away. I really believe that we should keep it in
>>one or the other way and that the new stuff of Kate and KDevelop is no
>>alternative.
> 
> You are aware that the kmdi port to Qt4 is horrible broken and that the 
> kdockwidget are in the same state? Without a big effort, nothing of that 
> stuff will work in any reasonable way in KDE4, therefor, better think about a 
> replacement.
> I can only speak for Kate, we will stick with our own stuff, at least it seems 
> to work fine with Qt4 and is only one file with under 1000 lines of code.
> If anything comes up, with a clean api, that supports the same set of 
> features, I will switch over to use it, but it needs to have some things, 
> like:
>  - load/save of view config
>  - no flickering while doing the above
>  - no "I do view managment with 10 eventFilter hacks" put inside
>  - no handcraftet splitters, really, source of all evil in kdockwidget
>  - no crazy hacks to have dockwidget's, if it's not possible to reuse 
> QDockWindow, than it must stay out
> 

Every part of me said "yes"; I've encountered every problem you mentioned with 
KMdi in Kexi and I am waiting for the replacement. It doesn't need to be 1-1 
replacement for IDEAl. Toplevel mode and tabbed could be dead. Childframe 
could be nice to have however, contrary to theory. What's nice in Childframe 
is a Detach/attach command. I'd like to have it in IDEAl mode as well, as this 
is nice feature for multihead systems.

-- 
regards / pozdrawiam,
  Jaroslaw Staniek / OpenOffice Polska

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