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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: spam toolbar icon
From:       David Vignoni <david () oxygen-icons ! org>
Date:       2007-01-07 22:31:29
Message-ID: 4F27544F-231A-4C19-BB46-2FB831A50E56 () oxygen-icons ! org
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I understand what you say.
Will think further to see if there is a way to not have 2 icons on  
the mail toolbar. If not, how to make two SPAM related icons.

In general we are trying to push for less over loaded toolbars.  
That's it.

David

Il giorno 07/gen/07, alle ore 18:37, Ingo Klöcker ha scritto:

> On Sunday 07 January 2007 04:21, David Vignoni wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 January 2007 00:59, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 27 December 2006 18:22, David Vignoni wrote:
>>>> Hello kmail devs,
>>>>
>>>> have been working hard on oxygen kmail icons. I wanted to ask why
>>>> there is an icon for "mark as spam" and one for "mark as non
>>>> spam"? Wouldn't be better to have just one icon that mark as spam
>>>> if the message isn't yet, and unmark if the message was already
>>>> marked? It would work almost as a "flag" action.
>>>> Other than that, the toolbar would look much better with a single
>>>> spam icon, instead of two.
>>>
>>> The icons are not just used as flags, but also for two buttons. One
>>> button can be used to tell KMail that the selected messages are
>>> spam and the second button tells KMail that the selected messages
>>> are no spam.
>>>
>>> Thunderbird only seems to use one icon/button for this with
>>> different text depending on whether the selected message is marked
>>> as spam or not. The problem is that this doesn't work as soon as
>>> some but not all of the selected messages are marked as spam.
>>
>> If the only problem is the text label, this can be solved buy using a
>> less verbose label. Instead of "filter classify as spam" and "filter
>> classify as NON spam" what about a single label like: "Spam".
>> Most of default kmail actions have super long labels, making the
>> "label under icons" view unusable and very ugly.
>
> The problem is not the labels. The problem is that in case we want to
> allow the user to mark several messages as spam or no spam (and we  
> want
> this) then how should the user tell KMail to mark all selected  
> messages
> as spam (or no spam) if there is only a single icon?
>
> Let's say the user wants to mark all messages in a certain folder as
> spam. Let's furthermore say that some of those messages are already
> marked as spam. So the user selects all messages in the folder and  
> then
> he clicks on the "mark as spam" icon.
>
> Now let's say the user wants to mark all messages in a certain  
> folder as
> non-spam. Let's furthermore say that some of those messages are  
> already
> marked as non-spam. So the user selects all messages in the folder and
> then he clicks on the "mark as non-spam" icon.
>
> Do you now understand why we need to have two different actions (with
> two different icons)?
>
> If there was only a single (combined) action then KMail would not be
> able to know whether the user wants to mark the selected messages as
> spam or as non-spam. A single (combined) action only works for single
> messages.
>
> FWIW, Thunderbird does only have a single action for marking  
> messages as
> read/unread. This is a real PITA because each time I want to mark
> several messages as unread in Thunderbird it first marks all selected
> messages as read and only on the second time it marks them all the way
> I wanted them to mark. I guess for spam/non-spam it's the same  
> annoying
> behavior. That's not what we want in KMail.
>
> Regards,
> Ingo

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