From kmail-devel Sun Nov 09 22:52:56 2003 From: "Aaron J. Seigo" Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:52:56 +0000 To: kmail-devel Subject: Re: Toolbars X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kmail-devel&m=106841851202204 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary_(ID_f/zuJioxTNljldtCwdZX/Q)" --Boundary_(ID_f/zuJioxTNljldtCwdZX/Q) Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 November 2003 12:45, Henrique Pinto wrote: > I've just noticed that > http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Toolbar+Review i agree with just about everything there, except the "Text Aside Icons" bit... i'm very concerned that this would make KDE much more cluttered looking and much harder to use on smaller screens... this is also wasted space once the user learns the basic icons (e.g. print) and most users won't know how to change that default... otherwise, re: the clipboard icons: yes.. they should be removed from the ui_standards.rc file... there ought to be, IMHO, separate ui_standards.rc files for different types of apps, actually... for document centric editting apps, the clipboard icons should probably be there... the undo/redo icons should also be removed. the arrows are bit too generic to be on a toolbar IMHO, and even less useful than the clipboard actions. i also support the concept of removing the Help, Configure and Quit toolbar icons from wherever they appear... i actually have an email sitting in my drafts folder for a post-3.2 mailing that covers many of these issues; i'd like to see us reduce toolbar icons by 30% or more in KDE ++(3.2). looking at kmail's composer window, for instance, removing Print (how often does one print from the composer window?), undo/redo, New Composer gives us 10 icons, down from 14. that's a 28.5% improvement right there without even breaking a sweat =) i'd probably argue for removing the Automatic Spellcheck button. and the Sign button. those are probably items people either use 99% of the time, or don't use at all. that would bring the count down to 8, and we're approaching 50%. the address book icon could likely be removed as well since what one most likely wants is to add addresses to an email... if they wish to just consult the addressbook, they can open it up separately. that would result in just 7 icons. as a minor niggle, Attach should probably be next to the Queue button since it's likely the next most often used icon. kmail's main window is a lot more difficult, though the configure icon should almost certainly be removed, ditto with the Delete button ... the other 12 icons are defensible though. there should be a separator between the Print and Check Mail buttons. and Next/Prev msg should probably move to be between the mail check buttons and the trash button.. why? because one checks mail, reads through it, occasionally deleting or replying. the resulting clean up and reduction is DRAMATIC. try it. patches attached. kmail devels: ok to commit? - -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/rsVM1rcusafx20MRAmX4AKCswDZhdOZwog11AEoZnzd2usuoWwCdEKf1 A9dIWlfDfmQuKsLOn97safA= =cSl5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary_(ID_f/zuJioxTNljldtCwdZX/Q) Content-type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii; name=kmail_toolbars.diff Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=kmail_toolbars.diff Index: kmcomposerui.rc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/kde/kdepim/kmail/kmcomposerui.rc,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -3 -d -p -r1.26 kmcomposerui.rc --- kmcomposerui.rc 26 Oct 2003 11:56:12 -0000 1.26 +++ kmcomposerui.rc 9 Nov 2003 22:52:26 -0000 @@ -78,21 +78,12 @@ - + - - - - - - - - - Index: kmmainwin.rc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/kde/kdepim/kmail/kmmainwin.rc,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -3 -d -p -r1.62 kmmainwin.rc --- kmmainwin.rc 30 Oct 2003 20:21:18 -0000 1.62 +++ kmmainwin.rc 9 Nov 2003 22:52:27 -0000 @@ -137,20 +137,19 @@ + + + + - - - - - --Boundary_(ID_f/zuJioxTNljldtCwdZX/Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ KMail Developers mailing list kmail@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmail --Boundary_(ID_f/zuJioxTNljldtCwdZX/Q)--