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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: ui guidelines clarification: Save As...
From:       "Friedrich W. H.  Kossebau" <Friedrich.W.H () Kossebau ! de>
Date:       2003-08-15 10:39:56
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Am Freitag, 15. August 2003 00:33 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> Hi...
>
> applications that allow saving of the contents of what they display but not
> the editting of the content itself (Konqueror, kmail, KGhostView), they
> offer a Save As.. option but no Save...

Important: There are even apps that should drop "Save" and only display "Save 
as..." in certain circumstances. Like KWord displaying an email attachment. 
Try this with the "Secure Screen Locking" attachment (found close to this 
thread in kde-usability mailing list):
1. open attachment with KWord 
2. insert something, e.g. "new text" 
3. Alt-S or click "Save"
4. Exit KWord
5. Exit KMail (cleans /tmp/kde-user/kmail... dir)
6. Start KMail
7. Open attachment and find changes gone! But you haven't been warned!

Works even with MS Office and MS Outlook ;) That's where somebody in my close 
neighbourhood found this misbehaviour after 2 1/2 hours of very intensive 
work at a document received per email. Gladly I kept my mouth shut and tried 
whether KDE works smarter... doesn't :(

I am filing this bug right now for KMail (adding to 52813). But perhaps you 
could add this potential failure remark somewhere in the UI guidelines while 
you are working at it. 

Does someone know of a general solution for this? Using the filesystem might 
not work as the only idea I have is to use the readonly flag which is not 
limited to temporary files so it's not definite. Perhaps using a standard 
command parameter --fromtemporary? Duh, I have my head at something else 
right now...

Friedrich
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