From kmail-devel Thu Sep 12 05:25:15 2002 From: Don Sanders Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 05:25:15 +0000 To: kmail-devel Subject: Re: What I almost did. X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kmail-devel&m=103180800506221 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--Boundary-00=_7UCg9VR32XcW7PP" --Boundary-00=_7UCg9VR32XcW7PP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Please see attachment. I can only assume that you fail to see the injustice that has occurred because you are not famliar with all the facts. Don. On Thursday 12 September 2002 15:03, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote: > On Thursday 12 September 2002 03:21, Don Sanders wrote: > (...) > > > There is significant information concerning events that are > > important yet obscure and and that I have not yet revealed. > > > > This means that *no one* is well informed enough to accurately > > judge the validity of my actions at this stage. > > > > I will continue to work on my case and present if before the > > internet community when I am ready. For instance it may take me > > some time to go through my old email archives on CD and hunt for > > personal emails exchanged between myself and Stefan Taferner. > > Obviously you must do that to find peace for your mind. > > I wish you manage to retrieve the information you're looking for > and have it presented to us soon so we can continue to normal > operating mode once you 'allow' us to "judge the validity of your > actions". > > You have been told to stop behaving like a child by several persons > including me. > > I hope the day will come when you think about that! > > Nobody 'stole maintainership' from you. > > You are not the only person having a big Ego - most of us suffer > from that problem since we are programmers, that's quite normal for > our profession (or hobby, resp.) but should _not_ lead to actions > like the ones taken by you. > Large collaborative Free Software projects can not be worked on in > such a unteachable ego-centric way. > > I a not wiser that you but I try to listen to others when it > becomes obvious that I got stuck in an idea: be it concerning a > patch that I like to see in HEAD or be it concerning other > questions... > > Karl-Heinz --Boundary-00=_7UCg9VR32XcW7PP Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="forwarded message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Don Sanders : Re: Zero-copy parsing of messages achieved From: Don Sanders X-KMail-Identity: 562112625 To: Waldo Bastian Subject: Re: Zero-copy parsing of messages achieved Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 03:19:35 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.7-cool References: <200209011823.03240.sanders@kde.org> <200209071933.53652.sanders@kde.org> <200209071209.18603.bastian@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200209071209.18603.bastian@kde.org> X-KMail-Link-Message: 499275 X-KMail-Link-Type: reply Cc: Dirk Mueller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200209120319.35718.sanders@kde.org> Status: RO X-Status: F X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: On Sunday 08 September 2002 05:09, Waldo Bastian wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 07 September 2002 02:33 am, Don Sanders wrote: > > On Saturday 07 September 2002 06:21, Waldo Bastian wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Friday 06 September 2002 05:54 am, Don Sanders wrote: > > > > I didn't seek out Michael and ask him to replace me it was > > > > his own choice to join me. > > > > > > > > I have never renounced maintainership of KMail nor have I > > > > ever abandoned the project. It was inappropriate of others to > > > > assume that I had. > > > > > > The About KMail boxs does not list you as a Maintainer. You did > > > not object to that change for 9 months which, if you were > > > indeed the Maintainer, you could/would. As far as I am > > > concerned it is without question that Michael is the current > > > Maintainer. > > > > > > Get over it. Waldo I would like to point out that one of the reasons why I feel like I've been treated very unfairly here is that until this week I've never given myself credit in any about box. Before I've only ever modified about boxes to give credit to other people, that was a strong personal rule of mine. I was raised in a family where we were definitely not permitted to 'toot your own horn'. For instance I never added myself to the KMail about box George Staikos did that and I never asked him to. I most certainly did not give myself the title of KMail maintainer. That change was made by Daniel Naber without my involvement: http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdenetwork/kmail/main.cpp.diff?r1=1.110&r2=1.111&only_with_tag=MAIN Furthermore I wrote KAddressBook and I never gave myself the title of author, I only put The "kde pim developers" in the about box and later somone else changed the about box to give me the title original author. The reason why I put Micheal's name above mine and gave us both the same title as current maintainer is that until this week I've always tried to give others credit for their work on not take any credit for myself. This is why I never complained about Micheal changing me to former maintainer, even though he did this in the middle of December 2001, a month during which I was on a much need holiday and a day which I was attending the annual Trolltech Christmas party. http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdenetwork/kmail/main.cpp.diff?r1=1.138&r2=1.139&only_with_tag=MAIN I want to be committed to KDE in the long term. But that means I need to go on holiday sometimes and even have stop contributing to packages for several months when personal and work responsibilites become overwhelming, which is something that can happen when you work at Trolltech. But that's really hard when core developers endorse the action of degrading the contributions of people who have tried to be unselfish and support the behaviour of those who take maintainership from someone while they are on Christmas holidays. Furthermore I don't think I'm the legitimate owner of the KMail package yet, I feel that I'm still in the process of adopting the package from Stefan Taferner, as he hasn't officially orphaned the package yet. Don. --Boundary-00=_7UCg9VR32XcW7PP-- _______________________________________________ KMail Developers mailing list kmail@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmail