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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: Converting Netscape Filters to Kmail
From:       James Mohr <jimmo () jimmo ! com>
Date:       2001-10-29 10:51:24
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Servus Marc!

My initial problem was that the files are not stored in ~/.kde, but 
rather ~/.kde2. That's why I did not see any changed to my kmailrc file. 
I tried right-clicking the new messages. However, I do not find any menu 
option that allows me to create filters. I currently have SuSE 7.2 which 
uses Kmail 1.2. Is this a feature in a more recent version.

As for writing a script to create the filters, my filters are pretty 
basic. Generally, there is one single address (or domain) for each rule 
and either it goes into a specific folder or it gets deleted. I think it 
is a pretty straight-forward task. Further, I disagree that Netscape 
"has the more powerful criteria". One of the biggest reasons for 
switching is the ability to filter on "any header", which Netscape does 
not have. I have so many spam traps, where the X-Envelope contains the 
address that I want to filter. Up to know, I have had to delete them all 
by hand. In any event, I'll try the script and see how it goes.

Thank you very much for all of you help!

Best Regards,

Jim Mohr


Marc Mutz wrote:

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> On Thursday 25 October 2001 21:34, Waldo Bastian wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>> I hate to bother you with this question, but I have already posted
>>> it and no one has given me an answer. I want to switch from
>>> Netscape to Kmail, but I have dozens of filters that I would hate
>>> to have to input my hand. I know where the Netscape filters are and
>>> can easily manipulate them into any format I want, but I have no
>>> idea where the Kmail filters are stored, nor what there format is.
>>> Could you give me a little help? I would be more than willing to
>>> pass along any script I write to make the conversion. Thanks!
>> 
> <snip>
> 
>> KMail stores its filters in ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc. It uses
>> groups like the following:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> While I know how valuable a huge set of filters is for power mail users, 
> there are several reasons not to try to import netscape filters into 
> KMail:
> 
> 1. KMail provides rapid filter creation.
>    Typically, you'd import your nsmail archive into KMail and don't 
> install any filters. Then, on check for mail, you'd go through the new 
> messages in inbox, right-clicking on them to create a new filter for 
> each. After each filter, select all messages and apply the filters. 
> This will move more and more stuff from inbox into the corresponding 
> folders.
> 
> 2. KMail has automatic mailinglist-detection.
>    When this was successful for the current mail, you'll see the menu 
> entry
> "Create Filter"->"Filter on Mailing-List blah..."
> enabled. "blah" is the detected name of the mailing list. The quality of 
> the generated filter criteria generally is much higher than the normal 
> filtering on "To or Cc".
> 
> 3. KMail's and Netscape's filter criteria and actions are not 
> isomorphic.
>   While KMail scores with it's large array of possible actions, Netscape 
> still has the more powerful criteria. Thus, any automated filter 
> mirgartion utility would have to be very smart to map Netscape-only 
> filter criteria to Kmail's, if at all possible.
> 
> Marc
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