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List:       kismet-wireless
Subject:    Re: [KISMET] APM/Laptop use
From:       Mike Kershaw <dragorn () nerv-un ! net>
Date:       2002-05-30 4:44:25
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Well, I don't really agree it's a good idea so it can be turned off by not
having a writeinterval line or by setting it to 0, but Kismet can now
calculate and write all the datafiles every x seconds.  See the changelog.

-m


On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:02:34AM -0400, Rick Farina wrote:
> I acctually do use the car to power the laptop, but when the key is not in
> the ignition, the cig lighter gives no power.  Hence, when I turn off the
> car, and the battery has fallen out of the laptop, it dies.  The real
> solution is to get a new laptop, but that might be a while.  It seems that
> you and Mike are correct, and writing the files doesn't seem practical.
> Still, I would prefer it because of my situation, but I would assume most
> people would prefer their battery life.  :-)
> 
> -Rick Farina
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Porkchop" <porkchop@nic.com>
> To: <wireless@kismetwireless.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:30
> Subject: [KISMET] APM/Laptop use
> 
> 
> As well -- wouldent writing out be counterproductive?
> Keeping the drive spinning (of course) keeps the battery draining
> quicker...getting less data.
> You could use the car to power the latop as well. I woulden't worry
> about draining the battery. With the screen off and the drive not
> spinning, even my old PowerBook 1400 drew less than 5 watts at 14
> volts.
> Today's power inverters would cut off if the battery drained too far anyhow.
> Pkcp
> 
> At 12:23 AM -0400 5/29/02, Mike Kershaw wrote:
> >Yes and no -
> >
> >Dump and GPS files are written run time, always have been.
> >
> >All other files rely on the total information for the entire sniffing run,
> >and, as such, can't be written until an orderly termination.
> >
> >Look at apmd, you should be able to put an emergency battery power entry to
> >kill kismet cleanly and let it write its closing files.
> >
> >-m
> >
> >On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:16:43PM -0400, Rick Farina wrote:
> >>  I just gotta say....that is awesome!!!
> >>
> >>  I also have a feature request.  I leave my laptop sniffing in the car
> while
> >>  I'm at work (trying to break some WEP) and sometimes (suprise suprise)
> the
> >>  battery dies.  Can you cause kismet to write the files more immediatly
> so
> >>  that (as much) data is not lost when the files are not properly
> unlinked?
> >>  Thanks.
> >>
> >>  -Rick Farina
> >>
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: "Magnus Ullberg" <UllbergM@abcbank.com>
> >>  To: "'Mike Kershaw'" <dragorn@nerv-un.net>; "Magnus Ullberg"
> >>  <UllbergM@abcbank.com>
> >>  Cc: <wireless@kismetwireless.net>
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 21:15
> >>  Subject: RE: [KISMET] Feature suggestion - More advanced 'vulnerable'
> flag
> >>
> >>
> >>  oh, should have known you'd be way ahead of me..  ;)
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: Mike Kershaw [mailto:dragorn@nerv-un.net]
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:10 PM
> >>  To: Magnus Ullberg
> >>  Cc: 'wireless@kismetwireless.net'
> >>  Subject: Re: [KISMET] Feature suggestion - More advanced 'vulnerable'
> >>  flag
> >>
> >>
> >>  Does it already - that's how it determines default configs.
> >>
> >>  It's just not fully developed in the -devel yet.
> >>
> >>  -m
> >>
> >>  On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 08:08:47PM -0500, Magnus Ullberg wrote:
> >>  > Mike,
> >>  >
> >>  > I thought of something today..
> >>  >
> >>  > You give each network a default score of 100.
> >>  > If the network is set up with the default channel, etc. you subtract
> 50
> >>  > points.
> >>  > If the network ip segment it 169.?.?.? (whatever the Microsoft
> pseudo-dhcp
> >>  > segment is) you subtract 10 points.   (Network admin doesnt know
> enough to
> >>  > set up a dhcp server)
> >>  > If they have WEP enabled add 50 points.
> >>  > If Kismet sees CDP traffic, add 5 points (you can find out a *lot* of
> info
> >>  > about the network)
> >>  > etc.
> >>  >
> >>  > That way Kismet can give the network a vulnerability score, and if
> it's
> >>  less
> >>  > than 100 you flag it as vulnerable.
> >>  > Obviously the ammounts above needs to be tweaked, i'm just trying to
> >>  explain
> >>  > my idea..
> >>  >
> >>  > What do you think?
> >>  > Is this going outside the scope of Kismet?
> >>  >
> >>  > Magnus Ullberg
> >>  > Network Coordinator
> >>  >
> >>  > Area Bancshares Corporation
> >  > > Networking Department
> >  > > 230 Frederica St.
> >  > > Owensboro, KY 42301
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > "I'll be using the claw end of yer basic crow bar, but ya could
> >use any kind
> >  >
> >  > of hammer or pry bar--just be sure ya get it blessed by a licensed
> exorcist
> >>  BEFORE ya start the project."
> >>         -- This Old Exorcism
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Warranty - Void, if broken.
> 
> --
> --------
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> Creator: Techie Theatre Funnies OnStage! <http://www.nic.com/~porkchop/>
> 
> 

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