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List:       kismet-wireless
Subject:    RE: [KISMET] [BAWUG] FCC Presentation on Wireless Ad Hoc Mesh Net
From:       Magnus Ullberg <UllbergM () abcbank ! com>
Date:       2002-05-30 16:40:59
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I was talking about the Ad Hoc Mesh Network Technology presentation on
fcc.gov yesterday..

Hmm.. When you are talking about wireless, are you talking about cell phones
or wireless nic cards?
I guess the equipment needed to triangulate is pretty much the same thou..

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rick Farina [SMTP:sidhayn@buckeye-express.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:18 PM
> To:	Magnus Ullberg; wireless@kismetwireless.net
> Subject:	Re: [KISMET] [BAWUG] FCC Presentation on Wireless Ad Hoc
> Mesh Net	work Technology
> 
> >I missed the first 30 minutes, if anybody recorded it, please post a
> link..
> I wish I wasn't at work
> 
> >I'm curious exactly what he was talking about when someone asked about
> the
> >ability to track people.
> >He said that you could 'toggle a bit' and enable some extra capabilites,
> >sounds interesting..
> No idea what you are talking about, but I was talking to a friend at the
> DOD
> about tracking wireless hackers and the outcome for the hacker is not
> good.
> Seems that it's safer to hack from a dialup than wireless (lol).
> Something
> about a specific unchangeable signature that is unique to the way each
> card
> transmits.  On all of the cell towers are the nessesary recievers to
> triangulate the hackers current position.  So basicly, unless you hack
> once
> and throw away the card (expensive for a few hours fun), you will get
> nailed
> by the FBI the next time you transmit.
> 
> -Rick Farina
> 
> PS>I forget what the signature is called, I'll ask him and update you all.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Bartels [mailto:kaba@picturesafe.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:41 AM
> To: Mike Kershaw
> Cc: wireless@kismetwireless.net
> Subject: Re: [KISMET] [BAWUG] FCC Presentation on Wireless Ad Hoc Mesh
> Network Technology
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Is someone able to record this "transmision"? I'm very interested in the
> presentation but I will not be near a computer at that time.
> 
> greetings, Kai
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 04:14:07PM -0400, Mike Kershaw wrote:
> > Might be interesting to people here.
> >
> > -m
> >
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> > Real Audio/Video broadcast presentation by FCC
> > (I think it's 10am-12pm PST)
> >
> > http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/#may29
> > May 29, 2002
> > Presentation on Wireless Ad Hoc Mesh Network Technology - 1:00 - 3:00 pm
> > (I assume the posted time is EST)
> > The FCC's Office of Engineering and Technology is sponsoring this
> > presentation by Peter Stanforth of MeshNetworks on wireless, ad hoc mesh
> > network technology. The presentation will discuss self-forming,
> > self-healing mesh topology as the alternative to today's star topology
> > cellular systems.
> >
> > -Ford
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> >
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